Poinson cleansing totem change is shortsighted

You can just run Enhancement/Elemental alongside Resto, this change is very minor and they will make mechanics more travilized. I expect that Blizzard will nerf mechanics in M+ such as last boss poisons in Ara-Kara.

Poison cleaning totem was also really important to dispel poison … you know … not just the affix

I actually agree :100:. Been saying the same thing every time it happens. That’s what I was saying when people were absolutely sobbing vdh tears last expansion. Why nerf the class? Why not design gameplay that doesn’t benefit from having or needing 20 stops in a few seconds?

That’s part of the problem. Other healers only get 3 dispel types. Poison cleansing totem gives shaman 4 dispel types.

A 2min CD is actually pretty generous since an argument can be made that it shouldn’t exist at all.

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Because nerfing the tool means they can design something like needing 20 stops without it being trivialized by one DH.

Nerfing poison cleansing totem opens up future design space.

Else, it would have to be no more poisons, but rather disease.

what do you expect from the current blizzard? Quality?

i expect groups to run 2 shamans on certain dungeons for sure.

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All healers have powerful tools. These tools were simply too powerful.

Lol, i doubt that. Even if they did, who cares? You do +10s, you are not playing in the MDI.

THe game should never be balanced around an esport.

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So in S2 DF, magic debuff was out of control in dungeons. Mass dispels was absolutely mandatory in keys and having a Mass dispels equal 2-3 keys level easier. They nerfed Mass dispels and magic debuffs in a dungeon.

Now, they are making the same move with PCT except they don’t nerf anything in dungeons. Imagine the last boss in Ara-Kara without PCT. They will 100% nerfs curse and poison mechanics after the next patch.
They probably should have thought hard about their dungeon and affix design.

You mean like how most groups do the boss? Don’t need to imagine it. It’s trivial really.

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Can’t we meet in the middle and make MDispell and totem both a 1min CD? Let’s not hamstring healers for no reason pls.

It’s not hamstringing healers. It’s preventing classes from bringing outsized utility.

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The dots in high keys will kill someone without defensive and dispel. I wouldn’t surprised that two Shaman will be meta for Ara-Kara.

He’s talking about the underlying issue of lazy development, you yokel-
-Amarth requiring 4 kicks
-The 3-mob pull next to the 2nd priest/rogue teleprompter in CoT requiring EIGHT kicks
-Any of the mobs switching to another school immediately after being successfully kicked
-Stops nerf

Stop being a clown and let the positive feedback flow so we can maybe get a good game again one day maybe

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Why bring shaman? Just bring people with poison removal.

Because having two Shaman can make the poison mechanics much easier to deal with. They can cycle with their PCT and dispel everyone in a button.

roaming waves are hazardous. Rather have people take of their own individually.

This is exactly why we have seen them backpedal nerfs so quickly recently. As much as I like to see blizz listening to feedback and acting quickly, some of their recent changes have not been thought out long term.

While this is true, it actually highlights why Blizzard is taking such a heavy-handed approach to nerfing PCT, as they did with mass dispel in DF. Having a tool that is this much better at dealing with a given challenge will always either result in balance issues like we see this season (and did in DF S2) or lead to strict design constraints to ensure it won’t ever happen again. Every limitation that goes on a designer reduces the amount of ways they can go about creating an engaging design. If Blizzard were to ever want to create a poison (or everything) effect that impacts more than two players which is beneficial to dispel, PCT would always be the singular answer for dealing with it. Having these must haves will put pressure on group formation and success rates driven solely by group formation that leads to the restrictive metas people claim to dislike in the first place.

Aside from cleansing one melee, I don’t even bother dispelling that poison. It’s easier to heal through it as it’s the only heal part of the whole fight.

And Ive healed it on a 10 as 3 different classes…

But how funny you can say imagine healing x without having pct :joy: since my lil priest does everything without a pct lol :rofl:

Negating 600k additional hps on the scarab elite before the last 2 cot bosses already shows the power of pct, except you can still do that whereas everyone else has to heal through it while walking around swirlies that last 3 drops too long