Poinson cleansing totem change is shortsighted

It removes all of them before they can tick. Thats all that matters.

6 casts for one instant low cost spell (0.5% max mana).

What’s happening is called class balance- Their options were

  1. Increase mana cost and cast time and lower aoe radius
  2. Buff literally every other healer to their level (destroying pvp balance even further)
  3. Remove affix entirely.
  4. Set the mass cleanse ability to the same cooldown of all other mass cleanse abilities.
    Logically, one of these 4 makes the most sense to a game dev- why should one AOE cleanse be better than the rest? Their entire game is designed around Mythic content. You can always just play their affix the way it was meant to be done…or bring 2 shaman. Or talent one shaman into totemic recall.

Haha you beat me to it! :joy: logging in on mobile takes too long lol.

That person is a nincompoop and I forgot I even had them blocked until I logged in and couldn’t see the post. :joy: their opinions are asinine and uninformed most of the time.

People posting on sub-max level alts seem to come in two flavors.

Security anxiety, or brain damage. Generally it’s the latter.

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You literally can’t admit what everyone else knew was going to happen just happened- Shaman totem trick got nerfed. They obviously intended the affix to require thought and planning. Not just “lol i have a single button that instantly negates it”.

I never said it wasn’t going to happen nor denied that it did? Starting to sound psychotic and making up arguments now.

I literally started responses stating that the change was bad because it’s going to require two shamans instead of one. Because that exact reason.

Maybe go take a nap or call a doctor for those delusions.

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Because last weeks affix happened. Basically made resto shaman REQUIRED to time keys.

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Sure , nerfing a ability base on a affix for 1 season only is really a good idea ( not )

Or…people can just remove it from themselves. Like it was intended to be. Obviously thinking 2 seconds isn’t your forte. However…here’s 4 more reasons it should have been nerfed.

  1. PvP. Nuff said.
  2. Any poison pulse mechanic/dot. Last pack in siege, mists comes to mind. Last boss in Ara-Kara, too.
  3. Mana cost was too low, cooldown too low, cast speed too fast for its power level in pve content.
  4. Every shaman can get it.

It wasnt tho lol.

This isn’t at all obvious. The affixes were thrown together in a week after their first try was roundly booed. The whole point is I don’t think Blizzard considers the game ramifications of the dungeons and affixes they “design”

They don’t think ahead, they just kneejerk react to whatever JUST happened. Just like the insane change to dungeon deserter after it was a problem in ara kara one week.

Except that a large chunk of classes have zero way of doing so at the moment, or theirs is on a cooldown that only works 1/2 the time and has to be used for mechanics in the dungeon.

Having secondary dispells is required, and telling entire sections of the community that they can not play the entire week is both ridiculous and a large cause of player bleedout at the moment. Gatekeeping by intended design is exactly the thing we were warning blizzard about in PTR, after their first attempt at affix design that was entirely favoring magic and ranged DPS every single week.

Warrior, rogue, DK, and DH all need either external dispells or healing at least part of the time, if not every single dispell rotation. Expecting 1/4 of the classes in the game to just bench themselves because Blizzard is bad at designing affixes, despite multiple times being warned this was going to snowball into a problem, is just a brain dead take.

The affix isn’t the only thing threatening in the key. Quite the contrary. And players aren’t perfect robots. Casts get missed. This expectation of perfect play every millisecond in keys below that CE content mark is asinine. Blizzard needs to get their head out of where the sun don’t shine and actually think about designing something that doesn’t create weeks of unplayable classes.

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Yeah, all you needed was classes that all came with self-cleanses…except dhs cause why not? So I couldn’t get into a single group.

Dhs can’t. And other classes have a high CD to remove it so its not dependable.

Why are people arguing about Mass Dispel vs PCT. The proof is already in the pudding, aka, M+ participation.

Sounds like coping.

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its crazy how some of you are just ignorants, shamans had the same toolkit in dragonflight and they were not called op or mandatory

just blame the people who are in charge of the dungeons and created affixes or certain mechanisms that some healers cannot deal with

jesus, disc and holy still have no kick ability in 2024 lol

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Shammy was slapping in literally ALL of DF. Only reason people noticed them now is people got lazy and every other healer got nerfed into complete oblivion lol.

With exception of MW Monk, but there is nothing you can do to get people to play MW at this point.

The only weak thing about Sham was mana management and PWave build and they got rid of PWave build basically.

I keep reaching a similar conclusion: Shaman is the best designed.

I played all healers levelling up, and after a time, before knowing anything else about parses and Mythic+ participation, decided Shamas was best.

Why?

Because everything else feels like a bloated convulated mess!

Disc Priest used to be niche, and now so many healers have some talent along the lines of “do damage to produce more heals” or more directly, like with Palladin and Monk. It’s as if healing, for a healer, is suddenly secondary. OK - except you enter the dungeon and discover you need to do non-stop healing and WISH there was a chance to DPS.

An exageration, but here’s me healing a group as prs evoker:

-release time anomoly (which has a 15 cd)
-Cast a strong AOE spell (which has a 1 minute CD)

Here’s me healing a group as a shaman:
-I pressed chain heal…there is no CD, and I can spam it.

Here’s healing someone as holy palladin:

-Do some damage spells, or some undeeded weak heals to earn points
-Now use those points on ‘word of glory’ on someone
-You can cast it again when you re-earn your points.

Here’s Shaman:

-I pressed healing burst . . . there’s no CD.

Honestly, I have said to myself a couple times:

Why play anything other than Shaman?

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Ah yes. Now as a havoc demon hunter I get to practically not play during devour weeks since healers will need to babysit me because we have literally zero way to deal with the healing affix :rofl:

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i played only 2 seasons in df, s1 was all bout psvoker, and season 2 most of all healers could compete

the problem is when people create stuff like affixes, poisons, curses, magic dispels etc when certain healing specs cannot deal with them

You don’t seem to understand that most of shaman healing is centered in using certain spells to gain modifiers to make your main healing spells more powerful all while making sure to time your cloudburst right.

It isn’t as simple as just pressing chain heal or pressing healing surge.

They actually made Crimson Vial not contribute to the healing for the debuff. Same with healing potions. I have a feeling it’s because we have a talent that buffs both.

They went out of their way to actually shaft a ton of classes intentionally.

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