I’m going to disagree here. The only thing a lvl 1 worgen would need turned in right away would be the two forms racial. And that doesnt add any power. All other racials can be left off till the appropriate level. You don’t need to do the quest for their dash, it just auto unlocks at lvl 5 iirc.
You can already skip both the Goblin and Worgen zones through work arounds like warlock and RaF summons, or at least you used to be able to. Not sure if they are currently working.
Ah, yes… because everyone pays attention and remembers everything and there can’t possibly be new players. 
I assure you there is nothing overpowered about being able to perform cosmetic shape-shifting while out of combat. Sure, it might make people envious of your fur coat, but it can’t kill them.
Did you miss the parts where I said
optional opt out 2 that
is only available to people that have already done the zones?
New players will still need to do those stories.
Doesn’t negate my opinion that I believe everyone should have to stick to their race’s starter zone. To me, that’s part of an RPG.
is this a game or a spreadsheet to you
Take it as a hint that no one should ever roll a second panda.
And a retrospective hint that you shouldn’t have rolled the first.
Yeah. Someone pointed that out. I stand corrected.
What do new players have to do with the proposal that after you have been through one of those on-rails starting zones once you should be able to choose to leave that racial starting zone and level in another starting zone?
I have 5 goblins, 4 worgens, and 2 pandarens. I think I have some experience with this issue.
And as far as new players are concerned, the goblin starting zone is a bad joke. It’s intended for not for new players but for experienced players who are rolling new alts of the new race, who are familiar with things like vehicle quests.
If my boyfriend hadn’t helped me play my way through that zone as a new player I wouldn’t be playing now.
Got to agree. The dk starting zone was, and still is epic imo. Getting to interact with Arthas(lich king mode) directly for those starter quests was pretty damn cool. Even after leveling my tauren dk to 80, I went back several times, and made some new ones just to do the quests up until the lights hope chapel final. Then I would just delete the dk, after going to org, or stormwind. To let the town folk throw rotten fruit at you lol. Got to let the town folks have some fun to.
I began with a goblin and had never played an MMO before, and thought it was brilliant.
Being completely new to gaming it was a memorable and exciting experience.
Thanks to the fun I had there I made toons of every class, so I could experience all the starting zones, and never regretted it.
I found this more funny than I probably should have. These threads are basically selling an idea that you can have the RPG without the RPG.
My 13 year old nephew and 17 year old niece had no issues with the goblin starting zone. Those were their first characters and had never played the game before. I didn’t help them. One lives six states away and the other is two states away. That’s a you problem. The starter zone is just fine for other new players.
And no starter zone should be skipped by a new player, imo. Even OP pointed that out.
As I’ve stated, to me, an RPG is about storyline and the character. No Nelf should be leveling in the Human starter zone, imo. To me, you start a character, play through their stories and their zones and the story arc. So much of it has been messed up as it is, with scaling and whatnot.
I don’t really care how many Nelfs, Worgen, Goblins, etc. I have. I play through those starting zones and I end up seeing something I forgot or missed out on before. And I’ve got 46 characters.
It’s one of the reasons I’m not a fan of Allied Races: no starter zone and you only see the scenario for them once.
God forbid someone have a different opinion than you, though.
Then keep doing them. I am all for more RPG in my RPG but 2-3 hours of questing where my decisions as a player (the RP aspect if you will) means nothing don’t appeal to me personally. The stories are great and should be experienced at least once but the overall questing experience does get old.
I have had several Goblins, Worgens and Pandas over the years.
You can leave any of the starting zones except the panda one by having someone summon you out. Then you can do whatever you want to do.
What I am proposing pretty much cuts out that middleman, if you have indeed done the content already.
And it lets Pandas in on it too.
Count on it.
I find that hard to believe.
That is a result of repetition. It can happen in any game you go to, however pretty much all of them wouldn’t put the resources into redesigning content they’ve laid out to dry up.
Whenever I see you type that, I think of a little old lady in a grocery store walking out the sliding door, unsatisfied and shouting about how she spends so much money in that store.
There is no middleman. If you don’t like an area, move to the next area, level scaling has been extremely widened for this exact purpose.
at the very least i think people who have leveled many alts should begin at the allied race level 20
going all the way from 1 just seems a little outdated when i can make a character with a 19 level headstart. make it an achievement earned thru leveling alts and be done with it
I had never played an MMO before. I started in the goblin starting zone with no idea how to move my character on the screen. I had no idea what a vehicle quest was, and how to control a vehicle.
Other starting zones are designed for new players. The goblin starting zone was not.
I’m guessing you had played other character games before.
This. You can opt out if you want, you just have to leave. No middle man except maybe 2 friends near a public summoning stone (or I bet you could pay 2 people if you don’t want to bother your friends)