Please stop with the hard mode flex

If you keep going with the flex you need to stop allowing the hard modes in them as it means nothing when you can bring in 15 or 20 people and do it when it’s designed for 10. It’s a joke really and makes people calling it “hard mode” laughable. It really just becomes kids mode.

If you can’t do hard mode just say it. Parses for HM with extra people are separated from the real parses anyway.

You’re looking at parse crap. I’m looking at it as there’s no point in calling it hard mode if you can just go in and not doing anything because you have 15 people. At that point it isn’t hard mode but you’re still getting the same loot. It’s sad and pathetic.

It’s not better loot. It’s just more loot. So you’re not actually getting the reward if you bring more people.

2 idols for 10 players (regular ZG) = 20%

5 idols for 20* players (HM Hakkar) = 20%

As much as I like doing the raids when they’re actually hard, allowing more players is way better for casual play. No stress about getting the perfect comp etc.

5 / 15 = 0.33

Why would u ever bring 15 players to a HM

This post is sad and pathetic. Why do you care if others bring in extra raiders?

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5 idols for 10 players (HM ZG) = 50% and show ability to do something simple with an effect on item

5 idols for 15 players (HM ZG) = 33% and the same effect but you didn’t have to earn anything you just ignore the mechanics and kill him = no skill

ok …your point is ____

Because at that point just make it the normal mode and don’t give the extra effects on weapons or loot. All of this is supposed to be a bonus for having a little ability to do something extra. Yet 95% of people who have it did without doing anything besides bringing in extra people so they can ignore everything.

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He doesn’t drop multiple of the same item, so you’re still losing chances at his actual gear.

And if you don’t need his actual gear… then you’re capable of doing 10 man. Being able to bring a few extra people for an idol run isn’t changing anything.

TLDR non issue.

Gonna cwy about it?

If you can’t do it then deal with the normal stuff. If blizz keeps doing this “hard mode” where you can ignore everything but letting in 50% more people then just put it on normal because cry babies like you need it because they can’t play.

You are literally the only cry baby I see in this thread.

An adult man crying because people can take 15 people into a 10 man hardmode.

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Flex is the only reason SoD is still alive tbh. Its so much better for the game than hard-caps its not even funny.

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Actually he can and it has the effect on that is supposed to show you did something special. Though in reality you did nothing special you just brought in more people to ignore everything. It makes it so there is no “hard mode” just people who can’t play walking around with it.

I’m making a point that there is no hard mode if the only thing you need to do is bring more people and ignore everything. At that point it’s just normal mode and you might as well just set it up that way to start.

Dang, how will people know that you are a special l33t gamer in this 20 year old solved game.

Then don’t allow the hard mode when you make the active choice to bring in more people. It’s that simple. Like it stated stop it in the flex raid.

And even if it were hard capped, it wouldn’t matter, because world buffs are basically doubling your DPS compared to an unbuffed raid anyway.

THAT should be your complaint. Not the flex raiding (which actually adds value and makes the game more accessible - world buffs do not)

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Its not like zg(HM hakkar) is hard even with 10 ppl the flex is nice so i can roll 11 and not tell my buddy who is our extra dps he has to pug instead of just hanging with us flex raidings intended target isnt people rolling 20 in zg or 40 in bwl its the people not wanting to bench people and running a couple extra in raid to avoid fighting the recruitment/roster boss each week as members lives happen. As a raid lead flex raiding saves me hours each week id have to waste finding fill if i was mechanically forced to run a maximum of 20 for bwl