You better keep this same energy when they nerf the trinket bonus for pets again.
Iâm not BM.
You donât have enough experience at the game at 1500 account achievement to even warrant any opinions because youâre still learning how to PvP lol
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Best be watching your mouth, heâs a 2600 rogue in rbgs. This man clearly knows his stuff.
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Who needs experience when I can buy your entire hard earned progress this season with WoW tokens?
And I guess Iâm right about this whole vers thing considering you got outsmarted so hard by me that you have to resort to rating shaming.
Please take your toxic attitude out of my thread.
I wonder how much it cost
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I hate to bump this thread but no, the pet damage feels like Iâm not lvl 60. Versa buff canât really feel a big difference.
Unholy has a big issue of power being tied up into pve only buttons so in pvp were lvl 56 instead of 60.
Also incapable of breaking pets out of CC. (Death coil pet heal should prob cleanse all ghouls)
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I feel like they should give pet classes a pvp talent like raise abomination for dk where it replaces a pet ability and makes it easier to manage.
Idk bout that Iâm actually confident venthyr bm is by far the best hunter spec and is rly good
Just pumping sustained instead, not really much to do as BM either. Not really a fan of current BMs playstyle in PvP atm, youâre over rating it hard too
WW actually does have a high skill cap tho, the difference between good/bad ones is crazy. Iâm psure most low rated monks werenât doing their rotation right w/ SEF fof cancelling eithsr but the vers bonus helps with that difference too
Sorry if iâm putting words in your mouth or it feels like iâm twisting this because i just want to make sure I understand correctly, but it sounds like the Versa buff as damage isnât helping your pet damage anyways, so making it HP really wouldnât have a huge impact on UhDks anyways right?
Really it sounds like UhDks need other more important reworks to make them more relevant.
And this is why this vers buff to pets was a mistake.
No body likes a BM hunter in PvP, not even BM hunters.
Thereâs literally no skill imo to pet based classes, I feel like they just end up playing the game for you and this game doesnât need anymore gimmick on top of everything else.
I mean you also donât really know how the dps is dealt with those classes either, the player is still hitting all the abilities that are making the pets do damage, it just isnât a difficult rotation involved
Itâs less about dmg being pet based and more that youâre slamming instants and donât have as much to manage
Give the same type of damage rotation to MM with the same utility and itâd be the same thing
Your mistake is putting the extra value on the pet and not the spec itself
Youâre right unholy has more important issues. I personally donât think pet survivability is one. The versa damage for the pets doesnât feel too noticeable but itâs still a bug that was working against us.
Xuen also isnât an issue because of versa bonus. Xuen is an issue because of rank 2
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The problem with your argument is that pet based bugs still exist despite being buffed:
I think if weâre going to start letting actual AI based bot specs like BM become relevant, they need to fix all the other interactions that go wrong with having a pet in the first place.
Ya whatever that person said regarding BM pets is wrong, and WW temp pets are the only ones that had perma follow issues
If you afk as a BM hunter your pet isnât doing any meaningful dmg, and youâre not getting KCs or barbed shots off when the target is LoSing
I donât even like BM but at least you should understand what you dislike
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Interestingly enough, those skills do a fraction of the dps that fire and forget claw does.
Getting mauled by 2k (3k now?) claws from multiple pets while being unable to get them off, isnât exactly a pleasant experience.
Which is exactly what I dislike about BM hunters in general, it lacks any type of skill or depth.
Claw is the same for all hunters you just see higher numbers because BW and aotw is active, barbed shot gives pey frenzy stacks, frenzy stacks make pet attack more
You just have a bunch of abilities you hit to make your pet do more dmg
But why buff specs where the entire mechanic is based on AI doing damage to real players?
I feel like as a green poster itâs in your best interest to want to see the game stay competitive and thrive, but enabling BM hunters to be relevant again is pretty much the opposite of skill based competition.
Because controlling that AI properly is class design. Itâs like durr unholy dks have an AI that kicks for them.
In reality itâs 2-3 key presses to make my AI pet kick.
âhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsVtZEicTj8â
So this is basically what you consider skill based class design, got it. 