Please Blizz, feral cat feels way less fun to play now and it’s one of the things I loved about classic WoW. If seal twisting was okay to keep its only fair that the old style of power shifting be allowed. At the minimum, can we get more recognition that you’re even aware of this concern?
Bump for a TBC like experience as discussed at Blizzconline.
This nerf doesn’t break powershifting, and Blizzard would need to fundamentally alter the class on the eve of TBC to break powershifting. They’re not going to redesign the class in the next week guy, so powershifting is here to stay.
So regardless of your feelings, the question then becomes why do you support nerfing an already underperforming spec? I see no logic to it. That leaves me with only one reason I can think of: sour grapes.
You have a sad little spirit lol
Bumping for #FixTheTick
Revert the energy changes! Keep the feral playstyle fun and engaging.
We absolutely need to hear from Blizzard on this issue so that we can make our TBC plans accordingly. Please let us know what your intent is so that we can make decisions about what class we will invest in for the expansion!
#fixthetick
“With Classic, people would bring things up and we would do a deep dive and be like, ‘Hey, this is exactly how it works.’ And they’re like, ‘Okay, but that’s not what I remember’… With Burning Crusade, rather than have us just answer ‘this is how it was’, the question is, well, what do you think it should be? And we’ll listen. Because ultimately, we’re making a game for the people that want to play it.”
Throw us a bone Blizzard, we are loyal players of your game, and just want it to be as fun as it can be.
I already cancelled my subs on my three accounts and won’t be playing TBC b/c of the blatant disregard Blizzard has for feral druids but I’m still here to support my feral druid brothers and sisters. #fixthetick
BUMPING FOR US KITTENS!!
BUMPING FOR US KITTENS.
hear us blizz!
From a blue post regarding Paladin seal twisting: “…This was not an intended interaction in Original WoW, but it’s a fun quirk of WoW Classic gameplay, and we want to allow Paladins to retain the ability to do this.”
The Classic WoW version of powershifting is a fun quirk that makes feral druid gameplay unique. #SomeChanges
Absolutely agree, and it’s not even a “change” in the sense that we’re asking for something new - this energy system existed all the way up to ZA patch!
This is quite possibly one of the most senseless things I’ve seen Blizzard do. It’s wildly inaccurate to the original and takes away the most unique part of a feral druid – power shifting. This concept that players feel “forced” to take level 40 gear to be optimal is disingenuous. Plenty of players like doing that, because it’s unique. The players who don’t like doing that, well, their lives aren’t made any better by this change. Just change it back already.
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Just keep bumping it, eventually the visibility will wake someone up. I get it, developers and employees have more important matters.
And for those of you on the weak cat memewagon, just stop. You obviously have no clue how much DPS and utility a TBC cat could pull and are just following the generic narrative stigma that’s always been present. Cat DPS in TBC is heavily influenced by both the players situational awareness and ability to execute and doesn’t truly shine until late game because of certain gear itemization (i.e ArP).
Originally in TBC there were VERY few cats that could play the spec properly or even had the opportunity to strictly play a cat/ot role. Sure, you aren’t going to be doing 3k+ DPS end game like some classes (looking at you hunters/warlocks/mages), but you can do respectable DPS if you know what you are doing. Plan B - Ghostlands: Nosfaratu was a cat pulling 2.2k+(which is reflective on the current change to energy) in SWP (Brutallus 2.5k/Twins 2.4k/KJ 2.5k), which at the time for our guild was above Enhance/Elemental/Arms/Boom(another utility dps). So again, people saying cats cannot do competitive DPS are blindly hive minding.
As a side note that no one is mentioning. This change now is going to be a huge impactor for feral 2s viability in arena. If it still holds true today as it did back then, you had few viable comps as a cat (Rogue/Feral mainly). The comp relies on feral burst damage and utility of offheals/cc, but when this change you aren’t able to tick shift into 60 energy anymore (without wolfshead, which in arena is not worth the stat loss and a meta slot). So you lose a huge opener burst since you can’t shift into a shred after you energy dump.
tl;dr Stop with the blind stigma against cat dps and viability in TBC, you have absolutely no clue what you’re talking about.
Has there been any word from blizzard about this?
Nothing this far. Keep in mind the tick change is correct based on 2.4.3. it is not a bug. Blizzard has changed things in the past however. Notably Hunter AP from certain buffs, completely dunking on the distiller that gave you insane tps because it buffed every player in range every few seconds (buffs give a decent amount of threat just look at how prot paladins were able to output huge threat numbers by spamming greater blessing of kings on the 20-30 Warriors in their raids.)
This change we are asking for is both in line with those of fixing things that were either overlooked or just busted in some way. If you don’t think that is fair then a compromise would be to at least let powershifting benefit from the partial ticks when you go from cat to cat. From what I have been told as you leave form you get a partial tick but when you go in, for whatever reason you get just the normal 60 if you have full talents+helm.
One of the main problems is that this change was an unintended consequence of a different change in 2.4.3. Additionally, as said, that change didn’t go into effect until 2.4.3 (after ZA). A compromise would be to do just that, return tick shifting to how it was until last phase.
It was changed in 2.2, after Black Temple but before ZA. That would be around phase 4 of TBC classic.
Ah I had it backwards then. I just recall the change at some point after T6/S3(?). I legitimately only came back to retail because of TBC launch and playing druid, last expansion I played was WoTLK. Tried Shadowlands during waiting room, but just didn’t feel right.