See I’m smart. I knew D4 was going to be garbage based off D3 and the direction retail wow was going. They didn’t get a single cent out of me from diablo.
But then they scammed me via 4 weeks of ranking decay in classic. Well played blizzard.
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As I said a few times earlier it’s too bad that the people who paid any sort of attention are the ones to be “punished” but I guess they were already prepared to rerank or stop. Yes I agree that just giving people their highest rank would be fairer considering.
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Yeah, I specifically stopped ranking because I knew I wouldn’t be able to hit R14 in time and thought the whole thing was going to be reset.
Had I known, I would have at least kept grinding just enough weekly honor to keep from dropping too far.
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They really should just put everyone back to their highest lifetime rank, that would fix any outstanding issues with people wanting titles if they aren’t going to retroactively give people titles from their previous highest rank. 2 birds one stone. I had friends who stopped ranking assuming they would be reset and now that it isn’t being reset who are pretty disappointed. This system has been very poorly communicated on what exactly is and isn’t happening and when.
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I am very critical of Blizzards failures, but on this issue they were clear that changes were on the way, hell they actually gave us more than they said they would.
TL;DR the communication they gave on this was just fine. Tho the one place they could have done better was a more clear timeline.
But Highest lifetime rank would be real nice, so if they did that I would not complain.
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How can you say the communication was “just fine”? They did a complete about-face after saying nothing for months:
May 22, 2023:
August 11, 2023:
I’ve praised Blizzard and I think because this was so far out there’s some accuracy in still praising them because people could have just finished up or not bothered for three months.
However, this reminds me of handing someone who didn’t save anything for retirement $100,000 while at the same time taxing the person who did save for retirement enough that they’re left with only $60,000.
Under promise; over deliver. Take it as it is.
While they could have done better; its certainly better than their most recent track record on changes… If we slam them too hard they’re more than likely to recluse again.
I get your point. The fact that they warned people 12 weeks ago is almost unheard of for them.
I was legit surprised, normally they just spring it on us without any warning.
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Ironically, it would have been better if Blizz hadn’t said anything and sprung the change on us. Then everyone who was actively ranking wouldn’t have lost progress, not just the people who were going for R14.
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I am all for it if they go with Max lifetime rank, the point I was making is that their communication was far above their typical.
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They have the data for max lifetime rank. It’s how they handed out titles when tbc came.
The ONLY argument against Max lifetime rank is the dishonorable kill wave it would cause leading up to that reset.
And that you solve in one of two ways.
First, simply count every dhk accrued again after the reset… All at once.
Or simply say nothing until it’s too late for people to reenact the purge, then reset people to max lifetime rank anyway. So for this the one that appears to be what we’re doing, but blizzard absolutely loves fumbling the ball on the goal line, so be entirely prepared to get fully reset
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I cant call it poor communication because I firmly believed they would hold your current rank based on the notification that they would not be counting this week toward your progress.
I said as much on these forums and was told ‘nuh uh’. It didnt make sense to me to keep the old system up and running the whole time after the announcement so I rationally drew the conclusion that this was the way they were going to go.
Long story short, if you quit ranking based off a vague post you have no one to blame but yourself.
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Are you saying that choices have consequences?
The post from May 22 is about as far from “vague” as you can get:
I suspect you didn’t see what others could not. Rather, Blizz intended a full reset but later caved to complaining/pressure. Not saying they made the wrong decision, just that when making such a huge course-correction after such a long time, they should strive for fairness when it can be accomplished and won’t undermine competition.
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Its the opposite.
I saw what the players did not.
This topic came up two and a half weeks ago. Based on what I had read, I extrapolated that they were going to hold the rank you had the week before going into the change. People told me I was dead wrong.
In fairness to them, I accepted that I might be wrong. Based on a strict interpretation of a couple of sentences from that post, one could make a case they meant a literal full wipe of the honor system. In that other thread I noted that they did not include a firm example of what that meant by that. They didn’t say you’re going from 10 to 0 even if that’s the implication, so yeah, somewhat vague is still vague.
I also pointed out a follow up Blue Post that clearly implied they were intending to hold your rank. As of two weeks ago, the only thing you could say about it is “no one really knows for sure”. Now you wanna tell me you knew for sure and you knew exactly what Blizz meant and what Blizz was gonna do when all the evidence suggests otherwise.
Okay then.
As evidenced by the daily megathreads of seething outrage demanding Blizz not reset the honor system. Tell yourself whatever you need too to sell your story. Nothing’s gonna change.
Blizz, you said the rank system would be “completely reset.” Players relied on that and then you did an complete about face.
Make it right.
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Why weren’t you helping your boys graduate 14 before the reset instead of sitting on the sidelines.
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