Please remove timer in M+ in midnight

It won’t, but it will get you more participation from the crowd that hates timers and possibly a little less complaining.

Some people are cool and don’t care, I would like to encourage cool people.

As someone who has always felt that Trash clear percentage is the worst part of the entire Mythic process, I’m not opposed to removing the timers, or just having a Non-timed version of the entire mythic system, and leaving the timers for some tryhard specific challenge mode.

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So it’s to only run +2 keys?

Something you can absolutely ignore the timer for already.

It’s creating a solution for a problem that doesn’t really exist. As there is no evidence that this will remove toxicity.

And if you fommgoal is to only group up with the people ok with this optional method…you can do this today. Now. You can form a chill group that is not going to pay attention to the timer.

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Remove most rewards and advancing the key.

Shrug

Honestly it sounds like with Brawlers Guild returning he’d enjoy a version of that, which has a real scaleable difficulty and rewards. Just pure boss rush.

Eh, I’m more in favor of leaving the rewards as they are, but just having the timed versions contribute solely to meta achievements and maybe a challenge mog, like the old challenge dungeons in MoP offered.

Doubt it. Because then their complaints will be that they have zero way to level up their key.

Sounds like the definition of making a mountain out of a mole hill.

Of course you are.

Is there any subject you aren’t overly entitled on?

The point flew past you. Those who do not care about the timer should have the in-game option to turn off seeing the timer for the entire group. This way no one in that group is in any sort of rush.

Removing the variability of the other players actions being influenced by the clock.

Yes timers do influence people. It creates a challenge for you and that’s great.

Other players should have the option to turn it off and simply have only the effects seen at the end if they do not make the timer… without having any clock shown to the group.

Define entitled. Is there any topic you aren’t overly inflammatory and contrary on?

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Are you suggesting people who get anxious over the timer would be more relaxed if they just couldn’t see the timer but knew it was there?

I feel that would drive even more timer anxiety.

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Sounds like M+ isn’t for you. The timer is integral for the success of the system.

Or better yet, find a guild full f people who share your beliefs around the timer and just ignore it with them.

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I think this is a fantastic idea mate.

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So join or make a group for (Completion). There are already tons out there that just want to complete the key and don’t care about the timer. Are you really so sensitive that seeing a timer triggers you?

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It may not help you, so you can go for normal mythic plus.

But it would help me. So I would focus on getting into a timerless group.

Thank you. I thought it to be simplistic and effective at the same time without being too intrusive. Ultimately the timer is the challenge at the very least they could give the first 10 deaths for free before deaths start taking time off the clock. That could also work in the favor of the player and give them another goal to reach which is minimizing the number of deaths. it’s important that challenge content remain challenging, but not daunting. If people feel too overwhelmed or to defeated, they just want to abandon the key and then nothing gets done.

You want all the rewards with out putting any effort in.

The majority of them.

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No I’m not sensitive, I’m logical and I know how simple things can affect how minds operate. If even one hunter sees a timer they could start pulling for the tank. That would be bad.

So if the group says no timer, it should have a hide all option.

I have some other suggestions that I occasionally propose:

  1. Deduct rating for a failed run.
  2. Subtract one minute from the timer for each death.
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no, this is a bad idea. thank you for trying though.

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