Please remove the cooldown on Soar

Yeah, I can tell you don’t care a bit about anything we are proposing.

Thank you for answering though, getting a mount as a racial is more impactful to you. I just hard disagree, but hope you have a good day.

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Thank you for ignoring absolutely any rational conversation about this on any level.

If you can’t compare an out of combat racial to a combat racial of another race…you just don’t want to talk about it.

If you can’t put words in my mouth, you just dont want to talk about it.

If you cant just have everyone agree with what you want, you just dont want to talk about it.

I wonder if the devs will take this sorta feed back seriously. You know. The kind immune to any open conversation.

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Strawmanning is a common tactic in here. At a point you just have to know when to fire up the ignore option.

which is typical as well.

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You are the only person that has put words in the other’s mouth.

Sure, I don’t disagree about out-of-combat vs. in-combat racials. I would still argue that the ability to buy a flying mount by any character so easily puts the usefulness of the racial to 0.

I am not demanding you agree with me. I said if that is what you believe, I don’t know what else to say and I hard disagree. I also wished you a good day and still do. I don’t expect the devs to cater around me. I do wish the players didn’t treat us as unreasonable when we ask for a better way to use the wings on our backs, especially in the Dragon Isles themselves.

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I’m not going to ignore him. I do agree that class balancing is important. I do agree that sometimes the proposals from our camp are kind of wacky. I do agree that the devs have a lot on their plate right now and can’t do everything (some communication would be nice though :slight_smile: )

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They are already really stacked with racial abilities.

The thing with this is they SHOULD have seen this from day one of comingup with the race.
Same with Demon Hunters.
they have WINGS lmao. dont give them gliding…give them gliding in no flight zones and winged flight akin to being mounted where they can fly.

Racial flight would have been the first thing I was thinking for Dracthyr.
If they have the same mounting time, it dont make ANY difference to anyone else that its a racial lol.
Literally one of these things that harms no one else, affects no one else, but someone else WiLL toss a tantrum about it anyway. lol

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Welcome to the WoW forums…where regardless of how logical and good for the game your idea is…the shills and knights WILL come to challenge you to mortal combat even if it will NEVER affect their game in ten million lifetimes lmao.

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I definitely understand where you are coming from. It’s just there are so many ways to solve a problem and Soar is clearly their solution and shows them thinking about giving the Dracthyr flight.

I personally don’t think it is a great solution for reasons from both camps. I don’t want to fly 300% faster than everyone else. I just don’t want to ride on the back of another dragon. But I think it is unfair to say the Devs didn’t think about it at all.

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Right.
This is why I mentioned racial flight with a speed boost on CD. Solves all the problems.
They get their little soar speed boost on CD…and get the racial flight that Im sure nearly all dracthyr players are going to end up wondering why it isnt a thing when DF drops.

So Im flying around at normal flight speed and when my Soar comes off CD I can blast it again.
Dragon riding literally does the same type of thing with vigor charges.

I cant imagine the lack of creativity it took to either overlook the simplicity of this…or the obstinance it took to see it, realize it was an easy enough thing to do, then decide to tell players they just wont allow that kind of fun in this game, lmao.

I think anything changing on the soar cd depends on what Blizzard decides on dragonriding as a whole. Assuming they keep it, then by all means remove the cd, but if they do not and it becomes an expansion only gimmick we have to look at things like Zerith Mortis, Timeless Isle, etc.

If they add flight to these future islands which are usually nothing more than rare farms seconds matter between getting a tag or missing out on a kill especially if you’re across the map from a spawn. If their is a perceived, or actual, advantage in getting rare kills for collecting mounts, toys, pets, etc then they will be, or feel, mandadatory to maximize efficency at that activity.

As I said, if Dragonriding remains, then it’s an even playing field and there is no reason to have a CD on soar. At this point I don’t even think Blizzard knows what the plan for dragonriding is going forward.

I think some here are a bit over dramatic over the whole soar cool down on the dracthyr evokers. And some to be confused still that it has nothing to do with dragon riding itself. The two are separate things all together. Either way at this point with only a bit of time until pre-patch release and the release of the dracthyr with it. There is not going to be much or no change with anything with the main race make up at this point.

Please increase the cooldown on Soar.

Those wonky lizard freaks are gonna be OPAF. No reason to spit shine them on top of everything else.

Sadly soar has been nerfed past point of usefulness. It was such great ability now to do work needed to reach those speeds most places wont be able to before hit ground. They need revert back to original design and remove cooldown. Add dragonriding all classes. I mean kind of silly a dragon has to ride atop of another dragon cause they cant fly.

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If they keep the cooldown, they should restore the speed.
If they keep the nerfed speed, they should remove the cooldown.

Alternatively, just make it another Dragonriding mount, subject to all the same perks and detriments of the system as a whole.

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Dracthyr are one of those … curled monkey pay races. SO CLOSE and yet they are missing the key points of what makes them cool. Soar is one of those points. As is Visage form, and even how the class plays itself.

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Its flying speed is 50% higher than current max flying. This gives Dracthyr an absolute advantage in the world.
Screams will come and either the speed gets nerfed or existing flying mounts get a buff which will be followed by more screams from Dracthyr players.

In relevant content? Not at all.

And if old content is a concern… give everyone dragonriding. If something is genuinely fun, the solution should be to spread it as widely as possible, not to nip it in the bud.

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Can it even be used in non flight areas?

And cd or no cd isn’t going to make a super big difference if it’s usable in no flight zones it’ll be super strong.

But if it becomes an issue in the future they canb add a cd then. No reason for it to have a CD here.

He used to be a hardcore raider in classic and difficult end game content is the only thing he likes. Which is why he has an agenda against flying or fun solo content.