It’s dumb they exist in the first place.
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They are in place so that low levels can’t just ramp up their stats to stupider levels than they already are and give them an overwhelming advantage in PvP.
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Gems and enchants already scale to your level. Some can be used at any level. Most have level requirements.
Many work the other way around. You can’t apply lower level enhancements to gear above a certain level.
Right, but this guy is wanting the requirements removed. Which current content gems would still give a pretty significant boost even scaled down. Probly. What do I know, I don’t bother with gems till they are actually useful to me.
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Incorrect. They all scale down the same. The newer ones just scale for more levels.
Restricting content for the sake of a fraction of a fraction of the game is just silly.
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It’s moot anyway. Any gem at level 10 adds like 1 stat. At level 20, it’s like 8 to that stat.
yea nothing like having a enchant require lvl 32 to use only to be told my gear is to high a level to enchant. if pvp is the only reason there not doing this then nothing is stoping them. how many people are really pvping at low levels? seems like a case of pvp effecting pve negatively again
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Is twinking still a thing?
I have twinks.
Frankly, like 70% of tooltips at low levels are just wrong. Sometimes enchants that say they give +1 stat give literally nothing at all. Some +movement speed enchants work, others don’t. I know there are gems that say +6 or +3 and end up giving +2. Not sure if there’s any +1 gems that give 0 or not. Haven’t tried because I know which ones give +3 which is the most I’m gonna get at level 10 (barring 2primary/2secondary).
And that’s in addition to being almost fully unable to enchant properly outside of a couple slots once you’re in gear intended for like level 14 or higher (10, if WoD WF), as all of the old enchants cap out at “level 50 or lower”, which refers to ilvl, not character level.
Aynway, point being, it’s all broken at low level. I’m down for them removing requirements as long as stuff scales down, but tbh the entire low level ecosystem for stuff like this needs to be reviewed by Blizzard, because none of it is working how it should to begin with.
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Yes, but they have become less popular between stat squishes and limits being put on old gear in terms of what and how things can be enchanted
Not entirely sure how it is now’a’days but its still a thing, just not as popular - and most of my knowledge of this is from pre-BFA time
Level 10s can just about 1 shot dungeon bosses. I don’t know if anyone can do it outright outside of level 20-ish with a certain bugged trinket, but my 10 Arcane Mage can kill the Elemental boss in Shrine of the Storm before it splits and the Snake boss in Temple of Sethrallis before it burrows even though it’s technically percent based. Basically, 2 shots under the right conditions.
PvP side of things seems pretty alive in the 20-29 bracket.
There’s also a pretty good sized F2P Twink community that plays at level 20 in general.
Once upon a time, in BFA, high level enchants scaled with the items you put them on. Fun was had by all. Eventually the Fun Police shut down the operation.
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It’s the same reason why they restrict alchemy pots to not work above a certain level. If they removed the limitations, they would basically be deleting the alchemy profession as you would never need anything more than classic alchemy. Well, except for heal pots anyway.
That was before DF it scale to your level ,recipes have a progression system ,now in the long run ,it is better, yet it’s a long road.
Yup with the garbage BFA nerf came all those garbage nerfs that never worked even then.Now with those expansions like legion getting the item level buff treatment etc but not all the old enchants and gems Like the Shoulder Enchants from Legion not scaling to level 70 like 99.9% of all gems and enchants should. Like how BoA item stats scale as you level. A system like that would be hard to do so removing the level and item level requirement is the best and fastest option.
They probably wont even touch this too be brutally honest Blizzard right now are in there AFK we don’t give Two bob about the game the players etc.They have basically and this is how I feel Given up on Dragonflight seeing how poorly it is maintained right now and the lack of any real communication regarding all of the issues like this and countless others are just ignored. For example Tier 3 Wost Idea and implementation ever.On my Oceanic realms players have basically given up farming the materials for the gear crafts and a smal handful are doing the Patterns and Dented items.I have yet to Check US region for materials but would not be surprised it is lower than expected.Zaralek Caverns and basically all of 10.1> has been the Worst patch I have played in almost 11 years. If you don’t play a tank or are in Full Mytic+15 or higher gear or Heroic>Mythic Raid gear,Enchants gems foods pots etc most areas are innaccessable to you below that if you are DPS or a Healer. You might go No you are wrong but I have 7 toons all 420+ and 4 of those are tanks that occasionally can die but rarely but if i go DPS i stand next to no chance agains rares in ZC and can do the non elite stuff mostly fine anything Elite based even on my Wariior main its a struggle and for no reason. You can’t just bring out a Zone designed for 5 man groups and scale mobs up to that baseline + give some of these elitesthe same amount if not more abilities than a dungeon or raid boss. Elite quest where u collect 4 spears and spear slain mobs is a prime example of Mobs being poorly made and not nerfed within 1-2 weeks or the next patch.
I know I got off topic but Yeah sorry about that Brain is a fountain of words constantly spewing out of my mouth and controlling that is hard. I am 1 million % in agreement with you and I bet a lot more are also just hope we get a change of leadership soon (Ion not being there or having any control was a lie).
That’s more for Blizz ensuring later expansion enchants being relevant and not being outshined by older enchants. Since Blizz seems to always reinvent the wheel on what enchants do, especially weapon enchants, and have been getting more restrictive on what slots can even get combat enchants, there’s always the possibility that an old enchant will statistically be better than the new ones.
Like imagine if we had all these new weapon enchants but we were still forced to go farm Cata mats for Power Torrent, or vanilla mats for Crusader. In addition, some slots no longer have combat enchants, so you’d be forced to go get mats for an expansion that does have combat enchants on that slot.
Basically, it’s a lazy way for Blizzard to control what enchants are being used and ensure the latest expansion enchants are best.
Eh, I wouldn’t call it lazy. Lazy would be simply making every enchant from BC onwards be “BC/Vanilla Enchant +1”.
This is more KISS solution finding.
This is OPs way of saying that he wants to stack a low level toon in level 70 gems so that way he can twink a low level BG. The only reason someone would want this. No reason why a level 30 should be in the same gems and enchants that a level 70 has. Like back in original WoTLK where you could have a level 60 with full level 80 gems and enchants so that toon would go around killing fresh level 80s, any level 60 and most level 70s… yea that’s why Blizzard fixed that this time around.
Hey OP. this you way of saying you wish you could twink a toon…you should have done it 10+ years ago when it was still a thing.