Please reconsider your stance on retail/classic reward linking

Once again, ladies and gentlemen, the greatest community manager of all time.


Pretty sure I’ve never once lied to any of you. Nor would I do it if asked. I can’t speak for other CMs in the past, but I’m pretty sure I’ve never done it and I’ve never heard of them doing it either.

I appreciate your feedback about the live game but that’s something more fitting for the General Discussion threads. I share your complaint about the advertisement in group finder though.


I’m personally glad I won’t have to go back to classic to grind out stuff that you shouldn’t be able to get anymore, See: Old transmog items

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5 groups that aren’t sale groups currently up in LFG between +10-15

To follow up, I can say I’ve never seen a lie from you personally, but sometimes the way you post and others have posted in the past come off as very rude for a person in the position you have. While I understand that the forums become very harsh towards CMs and Devs, you’re supposed to be the cool head. And it certainly is frustrating seeing posts in threads that don’t warrant a blue post then never seeing blues where they’re most needed.

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That’s probably me not helping myself in that avenue. I’ve never once actually felt anything rude in any posts that I’ve written. I actually am internally just giddy every single time I write and see the blue text. It makes me endless happy that I grew up seeing it and now I do it. So just know that I’m aware of that and I’m sorry if that comes across and I actually love this and love that you all share your passion with me on a daily basis.

A lot of times that’s just the unfortunate reality of the process. I just don’t have things ready to communicate but I need to at least try to show you guys that I’m active and reading what you say. This is an area we always need to improve in both personally and as an organization.


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The GOAT. Tom Brady? He fumbles too much. Abraham Lincoln? His fashion sense is dated. But Ythisens…flawless. Perfect in every way.

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but you said 2-3, either way there are like 50 groups posted up in lfg for dungeons alone dont seem dead to me.

I get that, but when? We’ve been hearing the same “we need to improve” since the beginning of Legion when the patch notes the week after Emerald Nightmare came out with a ton of untested and undocumented changes came out. We’re now 2 and a half years past that point almost and we’re not even seeing acknowledgement blue posts saying that you understand something is an issue and you’re reporting it. Classes are in a terrible state right now and we’ve seen no discussion since Feral Druids got their changes a little while back. We got a little blue post on the changes to Elemental and a blue post telling Enhancement players they’re not getting the attention they were promised that then got dropped with zero communication past that point.

So when are we going to see the improved communication? Because at the rate at which it’s going I don’t see it in the foreseeable future.

Could you tell us if the non-vanilla graphics options that were in the demo (water, shadows; animated vegetation) are going to be in the completed version of Classic?

I said above 10, so don’t attempt to change the argument after being proven wrong.

This ain’t GD, buddy. Please move along.


Your whole argument is that m+ is dead in groupfinder not that there is not enough grps for +10s. It is you that was proven wrong.

Ythisens, I haven’t seen anything rude or condescending in anything you’ve said. Pointing out that things people are asking for aren’t likely to happen isn’t rude… Saying ‘no’ when someone asks for changes isn’t rude. It’s simply confirming the intentions for Classic.


Just because the response you get is “No” doesn’t mean it is rude. I have yet to see Ythisens be rude. I don’t always agree with everything being said either but that definitely does not make it rude.

A lot of people call others out for trolling on the forums if they don’t agree on a certain point. In fact, others even resort to name calling or trying to belittle the person that doesn’t agree with them. I see a lot of pixel comparisons when people don’t agree.

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Being honest, +10’s are all that really matter once you actually reach a point where you care

Completely agree with Blizzards stance, retail and classic shouldn’t be linked at all.


why is this thread still getting posts?
do that many BfA players want to get themselves a scarab mount for BfA that badly or what?


Yes, actually, it did. At BlizzCon there was an interview segment shortly before the Classic presentation went on stage. Two of the high-level guys involved with Classic both said at separate times something to the effect of “The fans told us continuously that they wanted this, so that got us thinking that we should see if it’s possible. When we saw it was possible, we couldn’t wait to give them what they had been asking for.”

So…yes. The demand is why they changed their mind.

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Doesn’t work, as it opens up the the “I’m out of here” problem 5 seconds after the player picks up what they were after. Sure, it might be a year or more before it copies over to retail, but they KNOW it will happen.

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