a large majority of the people who want to play classic are those who dislike the changes that went into retail and want to go back to a time when it was designed differently, so why would they need to be forced to buy retail if they didn't like it
I think it should be offered as a separate $5~7 subscription fee, or a flat buy once of $30~, playing 2 mmo's with 2 different communities at once probably isn't going to happen too often anyway so I don't think this selling model is too practical, I think giving people the option to not also buy retail would be better
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just to clarify i don't mean get rid of the current model of having a retail subscription comes along classic for free, i mean offer another option to buy just the classic part for those who want just that part
You don't have to have purchased the current expansion to have a subscription to the game. You certainly don't have to play the current expansion in order to play classic. I don't see how this is an issue. Just don't buy retail.
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You no longer need base game to sub. you can sub without getting retail. they did it to get more people in.
$15 for a sub to classic AND retail is incredible, it's actually perfect. You're not being forced to buy retail, but your sub will allow you to play retail if you want to.
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11/02/2018 04:14 PMPosted by Zenerte$15 for a sub to classic AND retail is incredible, it's actually perfect. You're not being forced to buy retail, but your sub will allow you to play retail if you want to.
Except it's not perfect, it only benefits retail players. It leaves classic players footing the bill for content that will never be created. How would you like netflix at the same price it currently is with no new content forever? Great deal huh? Many want classic and only that version. Not retail and the update/expansion creation costs that come with it. Give us a separate tier subscription fee so we don't feel like we're being exploited to bolster subscription numbers for shareholders.
Feels like April Fools with the way people aren't enraged by this obvious money grab. We get it, they're a business, but charge an appropriate price for your product. Dont bundle a tv with a dvd player and expect the person to be happy about it when they only wanted a dvd player.
Private servers are going to thrive under this unwanted bundling of products.
Yes Please! I would pay $20/month for classic not to be attatched to the same sub as this dumpster fire called BFA.
11/02/2018 04:16 PMPosted by Gattz11/02/2018 04:14 PMPosted by Zenerte$15 for a sub to classic AND retail is incredible, it's actually perfect. You're not being forced to buy retail, but your sub will allow you to play retail if you want to.
Except it's not perfect, it only benefits retail players. It leaves classic players footing the bill for content that will never be created. How would you like netflix at the same price it currently is with no new content forever? Great deal huh? Many want classic and only that version. Not retail and the update/expansion creation costs that come with it. Give us a separate tier subscription fee so we don't feel like we're being exploited to bolster subscription numbers for shareholders.
And it also leaves people who only play retail footing the bill for classic, so yeah stop whining about paying for something you're not playing.
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11/02/2018 04:21 PMPosted by ForchancookiYes Please! I would pay $20/month for classic not to be attatched to the same sub as this dumpster fire called BFA.
You're not the sharpest tool in the shed huh?
11/02/2018 03:44 PMPosted by EsandariusYou don't have to have purchased the current expansion to have a subscription to the game. You certainly don't have to play the current expansion in order to play classic. I don't see how this is an issue. Just don't buy retail.
even then, i mean for people who don't want/need retail at all, the idea is that some of that money goes into the value for retail, classic is many years old and doesn't have any plans to be updated beyond it's base form so i don't think it needs the full $14.99 a month, i think you should be able to pay for just that if that's what you want instead of having to also having to pay for retail's value, the idea is that a lot of people won't be playing both mmo's at once, since a lot of the people that chose to unsubscribe did so because they didn't like the changes made to retail's design philosophy, if they want to go back to the old design style they'd be forced to pay for both
11/02/2018 04:19 PMPosted by ZenerteWow has always had a $15 sub, if you don't like the sub price, go play on a private server.
but this is an already made game from 2004 and won't receive updates/future content so i don't think it deserves the full $15
I think some of you are missing a simple fact. Some players have zero interest in playing Retail so that bargain you keep referring to simply isn't one at all.
Let's say at your office they have a drink bar.
1 bottle of Coke = .50
1 bottle of Pepsi = .50
You get charged $1 per day since you get your choice between the 2. What a great bargain! Never mind that you can't stand -->Enter Drink you dislike<--, having the option is just too good a deal to pass up right?
How dare those grumpy employees that only like Pepsi complain, they just need to get better jobs right? Better yet, let's just fire them to get everyone else in line.
Yes, this is absurdly presented but that was on purpose to stay in line with the lack of civil discussion we are seeing today.
Let's say at your office they have a drink bar.
1 bottle of Coke = .50
1 bottle of Pepsi = .50
You get charged $1 per day since you get your choice between the 2. What a great bargain! Never mind that you can't stand -->Enter Drink you dislike<--, having the option is just too good a deal to pass up right?
How dare those grumpy employees that only like Pepsi complain, they just need to get better jobs right? Better yet, let's just fire them to get everyone else in line.
Yes, this is absurdly presented but that was on purpose to stay in line with the lack of civil discussion we are seeing today.
Lmao at “””no changes”””” except when it comes to price.
Hahahahahaha
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im sorry you feel like classic isnt worth 15 bucks a month friend. im sure there are some classic players and retail players that disagree with you. this model works out for everyone. people who support retail wow get something free to play during content droughts and blizzard gets 15 a month out of classic players for the game they brought back to life specifically for you to play. there are no downsides here.
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Except it's not perfect, it only benefits retail players. It leaves classic players footing the bill for content that will never be created. How would you like netflix at the same price it currently is with no new content forever? Great deal huh? Many want classic and only that version. Not retail and the update/expansion creation costs that come with it. Give us a separate tier subscription fee so we don't feel like we're being exploited to bolster subscription numbers for shareholders.
And it also leaves people who only play retail footing the bill for classic, so yeah stop whining about paying for something you're not playing.
I'm not sure if you're being intentionally dimwitted or if it just comes naturally. Retail is getting classic for free. It's added into your current sub. It makes no difference if you play it because the game you already willing sub to has regular content updates that you enjoy.
Retail is the whole game and you need to pay full price.
Classic is 1/2 the game (well no, but half the levels).
If you only want to play classic, you'll pay full price for 1/2 the game.
At least that's how I see it.
Classic is 1/2 the game (well no, but half the levels).
If you only want to play classic, you'll pay full price for 1/2 the game.
At least that's how I see it.
11/02/2018 03:44 PMPosted by EsandariusYou don't have to have purchased the current expansion to have a subscription to the game. You certainly don't have to play the current expansion in order to play classic. I don't see how this is an issue. Just don't buy retail.
If the only way to play Classic is to pay for the current game, I won't be playing Classic. I will not pay to support that refuse heap.
11/02/2018 04:25 PMPosted by Estusim sorry you feel like classic isnt worth 15 bucks a month friend. im sure there are some classic players and retail players that disagree with you. this model works out for everyone. people who support retail wow get something free to play during content droughts and blizzard gets 15 a month out of classic players for the game they brought back to life specifically for you to play. there are no downsides here.
There are downsides. The downside is Blizzard starts claiming that the current game has millions of players it does not have because they are actually playing Classic instead.
You're not paying to support Classic. You're paying to boost modern retail numbers and support development of the modern game.
11/02/2018 04:32 PMPosted by Joynal11/02/2018 03:44 PMPosted by EsandariusYou don't have to have purchased the current expansion to have a subscription to the game. You certainly don't have to play the current expansion in order to play classic. I don't see how this is an issue. Just don't buy retail.
If the only way to play Classic is to pay for the current game, I won't be playing Classic. I will not pay to support that refuse heap.11/02/2018 04:25 PMPosted by Estusim sorry you feel like classic isnt worth 15 bucks a month friend. im sure there are some classic players and retail players that disagree with you. this model works out for everyone. people who support retail wow get something free to play during content droughts and blizzard gets 15 a month out of classic players for the game they brought back to life specifically for you to play. there are no downsides here.
There are downsides. The downside is Blizzard starts claiming that the current game has millions of players it does not have because they are actually playing Classic instead.
You're not paying to support Classic. You're paying to boost modern retail numbers and support development of the modern game.
I agree with this sentiment, i really wanted to show to blizzard that i did not like the direction they chose to take the game in, and i hoped that classic sales numbers would show that their old design philosophy was better, they would see this then maybe start to turn things around for retail, but with sales merged like this i'd imagine it'd be a little bit more difficult to tell it's prominence over the retail version
It doesn't seem like anyone is thinking about "option B" for paying for classic. Pay outright for the game as you would ANY other remastered game. No sub fee, no monthly cost. Those who want classic would just be paying for classic as a stand-alone remastered game. Let the current subscribers get classic with their $15/MO and it seems everyone wins. Why should classic wow have no other payment option outside of a monthly subscription? Doesn't even seem like anyone is considering it as an option.
I know in the end, it's blizzard's choice. I just mean to put this out there for discussion and throw some ideas around out there.
I know in the end, it's blizzard's choice. I just mean to put this out there for discussion and throw some ideas around out there.
It doesn't matter if you pay $15 for retail or $15 for Classic. It is ALL going to Blizzard. It is up to the bean counters to decide where funding goes. Our contribution to a specific game means very little to setting budgets. One game could have far fewer players yet get more funding. Quit thinking you can target where your money goes.
let us pay for classic only
if its 15$ than its fine
but dont attach it to bfa
we dont want to support anyone with the mind set of "u think you do , but u dont"
let us pay for VANILLA ONLY
if its 15$ than its fine
but dont attach it to bfa
we dont want to support anyone with the mind set of "u think you do , but u dont"
let us pay for VANILLA ONLY
11/02/2018 05:32 PMPosted by TingerIt doesn't matter if you pay $15 for retail or $15 for Classic. It is ALL going to Blizzard. It is up to the bean counters to decide where funding goes. Our contribution to a specific game means very little to setting budgets. One game could have far fewer players yet get more funding. Quit thinking you can target where your money goes.
that's not what i mean, what i mean is if they saw 5 million players playing on retail, then out of no where 7.5 million or more playing on classic, they would realize maybe something was going on and there's a reason for it's popularity, they would react to it and change the retail game for the better based upon the reception from classic, it's not about classic getting any more funding for classic development (which it shouldn't really be since it's not supposed to be updated beyond its base form)