Please nerf LFR N'Zoth (again)

I just joined Nzoth LFR as a Retribution Paladin and I do the same damage as 7 LFR players combined, and that is with no flask, no food and no pots. They did not kill it.

So… what was your point about corruption then? You literally just contradicted yourself. You said the higher corruption would help, but you just admitted it wouldn’t. Also, we already established the N’Zoth fight is 90% mechanics and not a dps/hps issue. So… do you have a coherent point?

And alas I feel like you’re right… maybe I can find a group capable of doing Normal. My concern is people bailing half way through or when they kill a specific boss that they want a piece of gear from and the entire raid falling apart.

Dude, if you can sit through an hour of ten-determination-stack LFR N’Zoth you have plenty of time to run Mythic+.

Like I said, I only have about an hour to log in during the weekdays but get my weekly M+ done.

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Exactly! It’s like torture! How are pure dps classes doing LESS damage than a discipline priest, even one who is way more geared than them?!

Should be easy enough for you to pug heroic or normal then. I don’t see what the problem is.

Pretty sure final fantasy does top buy I only played it for a month so I may be wrong and it was a one off but I am pretty sure it is subscription based.

Nothing is stopping you from doing those things.

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Not really making a strong case for yourself here. It’s real simple to change the character you post on. So you’re telling me you mastered the fight and couldn’t figure out a simple videogame forum? Clearly it’s those other LFR people that are the problem and not the only consistent member of all these groups!

I don’t have a Raider. io score. I don’t have any progress on normal/heroic/mythic Ny’alotha, and I haven’t even done a single mythic + dungeon this patch. People won’t take you unless you have a high Raider. io score (my server is cancerous, did I mention?) and you’re specific classes/specs. I switched to disc, but the nerfs were so bad I don’t think it’s viable for mythic + anymore. Shadow got hurt too and people typically would rather bring melee. It’s not really a good situation to be in. And the biggest problem on my server? If the group doesn’t look like it’s going to time the keystone - 90% of the time someone just bails so you lose out on even getting a piece of gear (which, sadistically, is not 100%).

Imagine the overwhelming joy you are going to feel when you finally find a group that succeeds after all the blood and tears. :grin:

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This is assuming I can ever get into a Carapace fight. :frowning: Can’t get the achievement without killing both bosses.

Umm… I did? You can’t change the character on a post that’s already been made. And I don’t know why alphabetically selected one of my characters instead of like, my toon with the highest number of achievement points or level. And yes, I’ve never posted here before, because forums are usually cancerous. I just made this post to agitate and hopefully get enough attention to get a blue to pass along that this fight is still too overtuned for the average LFR group to down it - even after 10 stacks of determination.

That’s only relevant in 10+ and above.
You can simply start your own group with a key on low end of mythic+ and you can be the one choosing who to bring. Besides, in low M+ no one really gives a crap about your IO score.

You do enough of those to build your IO resume and move up from there. For example, once you’ve successfully done all 12 dungeons on a +5 you’ll be at 600 score. Then get into +6~8s and get yourself up to 1000+ gradually.

No one just started with a high score, man. I raised alts last season from zero to 1300 in pugs simply by starting from a M+2 key and moving up. The problem with people who are whining about “not getting in because of low score” are people who don’t put in the legwork to build that score in the first place, and instead want to jump right into a 10+. (which is doable if you have guild friends, but don’t expect the pugs to pick you up)

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Ok then make your own groups. As a self described person who would be raiding mythic this should be easy for you.

Well better corruption would help yes. It’s not about slapping it all on and hoping for the best. Obviously.

As for you saying it’s not about damage why did you say

Do you

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That score is just elitist garbage. Anyone can learn a fight by studying what the affixes do. The tank is the one who has to know the routes to take the Awakened adds through the dungeon. It’s gearscore all over again. I shouldn’t have to spend months grinding dungeons that won’t give me gear upgrades just to get some pretentious number. I could PAY to have people carry me through high mythic + dungeons and get a fake score and some nice gear to boot. It means nothing.

But you just said to me that it wasn’t about damage. Make up your mind.

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Have you ever looked at things from other people’s perspective? “I shouldn’t have to do my legwork, people should just accept me even though they know NOTHING about me!”

Do you see why that’s insane?

Your argument only works with friend and guildies. Pugs are literal strangers, so they need metrics to see how you do.

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The nerf to the hp of everything (except N’Zoth likely) will be inevitable. I just want it to happen sooner than later so I can get this out of the bloody way. If corrupted synapses and psychus go down faster the fight will progress quicker. No one has any difficulty killing the tentacles w/ N’Zoth. The issue is 100% Psychus and typically during the Deathwing vision. The fact people are getting to 10 stacks of determination and STILL can’t blast through these phases, that also means the minimum item level to queue into the wing is also probably too low. The faster you can force a transition the less reliant you will be on people to actually be good.

And again, if I wanted to, I could buy a high Raider score. It isn’t actually an indication of skill.

I said nothing about skill, only what makes it easier to get into higher M+.

You said you don’t have IO score so you can’t get into M+.

I told you how you can raise IO score from ground up.

You then went on to rant about elitism, how IO doesn’t mean skill, and other irrelevant nonsense.

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But you said

Imagine losing an argument to yourself yikes

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