so you’re saying that u didnt crit before but now u do? cuz 2 set only increases chance to crit of MS, and 10% dmg, and 408-420~ ilvl is only a 10% dmg upg. so would be a 20% difference
Yeah and in the past had wildly different setups
Think they should just buff stamina again like they did in beta before the xpac dropped. Like 20% at least tbh.
It’s not even just a low rated thing. Awc tournament games being over in <1 min with everyone blowing cds left and right. Might be a bit funner to watch as a viewer, but as a player it’s pretty bad.
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Did some shuffles today and the game has slowed considerably. Most games are 2-4mins now. That’s not bad in a shuffle. MW healing is really good too noticed this right away.
IMHO Rogues need one more tuning pass and Disc priest dmg should be looked at. Maybe Ele/Destro as well.
Which hurts hybrids and healers and only directly buffs all classes with percentile based healing (ie pure dps), the true answer is to go to the warlord style PVP trinket set bonus which was just reduced dmg from players
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its almost like everyone should be stuck at honor gear lvl stats as a template… Then we dont see chaos bolts etc doing half of peoples life. And its a challenge of back and forth.
Rather than the whoever has the biggest xplosive crit meta.
If theres no gear progression this isnt PvP in an MMO anymore. Its Heroes of the Storm.
Team experience and talents? Stacking quests? 
They can keep their gear lvl for pve… but y is that bad?
FFXIV has stat template pvp
Lost ark has stat template pvp
Its easier to ensure everyone is at a competitive level. It is also easier to then tune outliers like ret pally up as needed. From a dev standpoint of balancing how is this not an easier situation for control and give players a nice playing field?
This stinks of “My mmo has been like this forever and i dont want them to innovate or make changes because… we hate innovation??”"
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As someone who plays disc I will not argue a nerf in damage. Some games Im doing as much damage as dps.
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WoW tried it too and it wasn’t very fun
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tfw playing thrall against 4 melee and taking WF infinite stacking plus the triple tap last swing that gives triple quest credit
I miss HotS.
This is such a great point, and speaks volumes to why Conquest should be a modest upgrade and tier bonuses should not work in PvP.
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Totally agree. Honor gear PvP felt wonderful. Conquest + set bonuses feels like a nuclear arms race with mutually assured destruction.
In 5 seconds.
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nerf heals dmg is fine
I think the dps damage is fine, it’s the added pressure from healer damage which makes it feel harder. Plus dampening ramps fast.
And assassin rouges still have uneccesary healing reduction effects. And needs nerfing asap to make pvp alot healthier for the game.
As much as a slam my keyboard, throw my mouse, curse the broken classes (pretty much all of them) , or get disgruntled I do not prefer to go back to slower metas. At least not dampener slow. From a healing perspective it does feel a bit toon fast but that still is better than a bit too slow. I can’t even achieve ratings that I previously didn’t have issues achieving previous but I’d rather adjust to this speed than go back to too slow.
more or less agreed, but honestly it cannot possibly be that bad to just buff pvp HP some more, to take the edge off of all this burst. the fact that some classes have percentage based heals doesnt go nearly far enough to undermine all the good it’d do to just have like 70k more HP so that ppl arent getting hit for a third of their health so often.
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Stop nerfing spell power based heals by buffing stamina and just reduce damage. Like replace the stamina buff on the PvP trinket with a damage reduction in PvP combat and tune the DR to get to a healthy pace for PvP combat.
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youre not wrong, but lets face it, they wont nerf dmg properly. theyll get it all wrong and some wont be nerfed enough, others will be nerfed too much. they can just buff HP for now and throw a few buffs at shaman and druid heals, basically. much safer. sure fix the right problem the right way, except, they wont. we have nearly 2 decades of info to go on.