Dear Devs,
It takes a very long time to cap pvp vaults on toons right now, especially for casual players and players with many alts. Since normal dungeons and timewalking dungeons contribute towards vault unlocks for the dungeon section, please consider making random bgs/epic/blitz count towards vault. I understand that the pvp vault is going away in the next xpac, however half a season in addition to the fated season is a long time to wait.
I have no issue capping on my healers since solo shuffle q time is instant. However, for DPS I often result to yolo rbgs and yolo daily arena win for the bonus.
For folks with many alts, it’s difficult. I enjoy multiclassing. Yesterday, on my DK it took 3 hours to unlock the first 2 vaults.
Thank you!
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Please remove pvp from vault. kthnxbai
They already said it would go away next xpac. It’s not going to happen 10.2.5 as a mid season change
It’s kind of funky how a heroic or timewalking dungeon counts towards vault but not unrated pvp.
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Capping PvP Vault is a huge pain if you’re someone with several alts who’d rather do other forms of PvP than constantly arena.
I literally just ignore it on most characters and eat the disadvantage. Takes way, way too long to cap it on a given character with only 2s or 3s (and RSS queues are way too long for the paltry contribution it gives now).
Blitz and even unrated PvP should absolutely count. If they did, I honestly wouldn’t mind Vault sticking around for PvP. But as-is it’s a tedious chore.
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Yes, your time in game should matter…rated or unrated. Unfortunately, the current setup discourages me from playing any unrated pvp. I simply do not have time to test the battleground blitz or play casual pvp if I want to maintain characters to be competitive.
Rated PvP participation might crash if this happened.
Why spend 30+ minutes waiting in a RSS queue (and get zero honor if someone deserts before the first round) when you can quickly farm honor in random epic bgs? You can even go AFK while you cap your vault.
Healers would also stop queuing for arenas.
We’d probably see more AFKs/bots in random bgs. And more premades as players want fast 5k honor for all their toons.
It will be fine. Sitting 30 mins for a shuffle q is not enjoyable gameplay. Shuffle is not a great option to cap the vault with long DPS queue time, and uncertainty in receiving honor if you “win” the set of games. AFKs/bots happen anyways.
You’re arguing against a quality of life improvement.
There are many casual pvpers that simply want to play solo at their own level in random bgs.
You can simply apply your logic to what is going on with m+ dungeons and heroic/timewalking dungeons. Have people stopped playing m+ because vaults are available with heroic/timewalking? No. Season 3 participation has actually been higher this season than the previous.
I’m pointing out this will probably have a large negative impact on arenas and rated bgs.
I don’t know if it’ll be fun for solo pugs if random bgs and random epic bgs get taken over by premades farming 5k honor for all their toons.
You’d probably also see more level 70s party syncing down to lower level brackets to quickly farm honor.
I’m not familiar with PvE stuff.
Do you get better gear in your vault if you do m+? Or do you get the same ilevel gear as heroics/timewalking?
If Blizzard made this change, you’d get the same PvP ilevel gear from random bgs and rated PvP.
No, which is why its insane to me that people continuously compare them on these forums as if they’re the same. To get the highest ilvl pve gear in your vault you need to either kill mythic raid bosses, or do 2 to 8 m+ keys that are at least +18s (but should really be 20s to be “competitive” as people love to say), or both. To get the highest ilvl pvp gear available in the game, all you need to do is participate in rated pvp. You don’t even need to win or achieve a certain ranking.
Something close to an equivalent would be if earning honor in pvp gave you honor gear in your vault, and earning conquest gave you conquest gear in your vault. I’m sure everyone would love that 
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You would get a piece once a week from the vault.
You can already get this gear through random bgs/epics as they award conquest (a small amount). However, battleground blitz gives a good amount of conquest quite quickly so this is a mute point.
I am not going to contribute anymore energy responding to your comments because you seem to want an endless debate. You play a single character and have very limited rated pvp experience
People will still do rated for the rank, titles and transmogs. What we are merely suggesting is that, shouldn’t it make sense that all honor contribute to the vault?
Yeah, I don’t think it’s a fair comparison then.
Imagine what would happen if you got the same ilevel gear in your vault from heroic dungeons and +18 mythics.
If you participate in rated PvP, you gear up more quickly. That’s one of the incentives for doing more difficult content.
I made two posts explaining why this change would be harmful to PvP.
True.
It would if the vault rewarded the same ilevel gear for heroic dungeons and +18 mythics.
^ This. (And the conquest has to be from rated PvP.)