PLEASE let Holy Priest keep Flash Concentration

Blizzard, with the new priest talent trees revealed there seems to be no Flash Concentration talent. As many noticed from the Mage Tower Timewalking challenge, holy priest feels horrendously underwhelming without this legendary power effect. pls reconsider :slight_smile:

from yours truly, all holy priests

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I agree, it’s wild to not have flash con included in the talent tree

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Not really…

You can’t compare a new expansion to what we’ve had through shadowlands.
In Dragonflight they could buff Flash heal for 300% healing and you won’t need flash concentration ever again in your life. I mean they could even buff PoH making it a core ability and you might not even cast Flash heal or Heal again (Like how you do not cast PoH ever in shadowlands).

Wait for numbers and testing.

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I’d prefer that legendary to not come back. It forces the spec into a single target build, smothering its many other spells.

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Yeah, I’m not a big fan of how PoH is an ā€œoff the barā€ type of ability. Also, I’ve only been babysitting FC stacks for one patch and I’m already tired of it, so…

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Yea, Dragonflight Talents promised interesting choices. Being able to choose to take or not take Flash C. is a very powerful choice.

Now the Holy Tree is that much more lame.

There is nothing in the tree that is actually fun to pick between. It’s basically the same talent tree as now. Go Apoth or Salvation. Go Divine Star or Halo. Guardian Angel or Afterlife.

At least we are getting some old things back.

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I’d really rather not.

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Considering their attention to holy priest in previous patches/expansions, the scenario you stated seems highly unlikely to happen lol. but true, wait and see is exactly whats gonna happen

i mean with SoL talent babysitting stacks of FC is kind of brainless anyhow. and i feel you, ive played flash conc since castle nathria :slight_smile:

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the build that its being ā€œforced intoā€, happens to be the strongest holy priest has been in recent memory lol

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Yes, and it is strong because its playing with a broken lego!

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Lego isn’t even broken tbh. It’s just that we have zero other scalars in our kit (conduits, etc), so being able to spam one of our higher %sp spells is valuable. I’m hoping they muck around heavily with ratios and synergies, so that the hpriest toolkit is back and valuable, rather than being yet another tier with a bar full of dead spells.

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I wish I could just have a talk with you about how bad Flash Concentration actually is. It’s just a crutch that people use to boost their healing numbers while also sacrificing a lot of damage they could be doing.

I was analyzing the talent tree earlier and I noticed there is a lot of new stuff that helps you recover a lot of mana, you won’t need flash concentration.

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In raid it’s extremely valuable, but if folks are using it in M+ outside of a hard healing check or w/e, then yea that’s a bit of a grief.

That’s why it would be necessary to put 3 specilizations into the tree.
One single target build, a strong AoE build and a DPS heavy build.
There are so many possibilities and I don’t see why we should prevent FC from staying just because someone doesn’t want to use it.

And you really think we could do any damage during BfA with all those slowcasting spells?

FC is not just about mana. It’s about proper and efficient use of single target spells instead of relying on slow and (compared to FC) weak AoE spells. Holy had a lot of problems and FC was a small fix to really give Holy a purpose instead of being far behind other healers in utility, dmg, healing and efficiency.

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Proper and efficient use of a single target spell, eschewing the use of Renew, PW:Shield (which was basically just re-added for Fae Guardians, so I’ll give it a pass), Prayer of Healing, Flash Heal for triage purposes, etc. With tier you also ignore Prayer of Mending a lot of the time, and Circle of Healing a lot of the time.

FC as a legendary is… fine for raid, I guess, but making a band-aid baseline instead of just making your other buttons worth pressing is not the way to go. Having the solution to every possible triage scenario be ā€˜press Heal’ is not interesting gameplay.

I also feel it runs counter to Blizzard wanting players to experiment with their toolkits with the talent overhauls.

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The real tragedy is losing Ascencion and Fae Guardians

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If you use flash concentration properly and spec into haste in dungeons, there is no real loss of DPS.

Your rotation becomes fishing for Surge procs so you can sustain the flash, while you can easy spam dps and go for ascended boon.

The AOE potential is insane too because of the nature of how your Echo of Light spreads the single target heals over everyone, while at the same time nuking on single target.

It’s fun to be able to emergency heal so hard and its a bit shame that it seems there is no real similar build that it seems we can create.

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Ascension yes, but Fae Guardians real use is just a way of getting mana back, which if you spec into the right talents you can get mana back pretty often.

Sadly HPriest damage will suffer a lot going into next expac, you can still do very decent if you pick the Holy Fire talents but it won’t be like now where you do the same DPS as a tank in M+

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I’ve never really used it for mana gain. For me the main purpose was reducing the cooldown on Divine Hymn.

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