Please increase reagent drop rates in SoM so players can actually farm their own items

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Lets talk about the spell power enchant to illustrate the biggest frustration people are having in SoM, the frustration that you have no real option of playing the game without acquiring shady gold.

Lets say you were to farm the spell power enchant in a legitimate way how does that look like.

2 Golden Pearls - 400 kills required at a 0.05% drop rate

4 Essence of Air - 80 kills at a 5% drop rate

4 Essence of Water - 66.667 kills at a 6% drop rate

4 Essence of Fire - 100 kills at a 4% drop rate

This is also assuming you don’t get unlucky on any of the drop rates, it gets even much worse if you go over the drop rate

Also 4 Large Brilliant Shards (5 gold per on my server) and 12 (10 gold per on my server) Greater Eternal Essence

2 Golden Pearl - 200gold
4 Essence of Air - 80 gold
4 Essence of Water - 52 Gold
4 Essence of Fire - 36 gold
4 Large Brilliant Shards - 20gold
12 Greater Eternal Essence - 120gold
Total 508 gold

If you’re farming gold at a rate of 50 gold per hour which in SoM is respectable thats 10 hours of grinding for ONE enchant upgrade.

Either 10 hours of grinding gold or having to kill 650 mobs (only a few classes are really good at mass grinding as well) not including the 140 gold for enchanting matts.

BTW dont forget this is just ONE enchant, you also need to account for other enchants and the 200-300 gold a week for progression raiding. God forbid you also get an upgrade, hope you’re ready for doing it all over again, after all 30 sp is not something you can pass up.

This is why people are complaining that the game is unreasonably grindy, and for those that love this game and want to play well, you have to partake in the economy and we all know how those players are getting their gold. It’s just a simple math problem, the numbers can’t be overcome unless you’re playing 24/7.

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I made 1,400g doing gdkps last sunday and didn’t spend a single coin.

Was pretty sweet.

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You’re fixating far too much on a luxury enchantment that is rightfully difficult to gather all the reagents for via solo-play. Do a high level dungeon and mail the BoE greens/blues to a lvl 5 disenchanting alt for your essences and shards. The only worthwhile gripe out of any of those materials is the pearls.

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You’re missing the bigger picture, I’m just showing how one upgrade that is going to be required for most guilds if you want to raid takes 10 hrs to get. I wouldn’t say its luxury with the increased difficulty and no WBs id say its just standard now. I haven’t even gotten into the numbers behind farming your own consumes and other items. Just illustrating why people are frustrated.

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It is luxury and you are using the extreme to set a standard that doesn’t exist. Show me a more demanding enchantment than spellpower to weapon.

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You don’t raid if you say its luxury I’m sorry. The greater enchant to chest is still around 150 gold, that’s 3 hours of grinding for yet another enchant, do you want me to do the math for how much all the slots would cost ?

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There’s no rewarded posting here.
Get busy farming or getting help from guildies.

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Shouldn’t the challenge in the game come from trying to progress in raids and not from wanting to quit from having to farm 30 hrs just to get a full set of enchants ? What is the harm in making upgrades more realistic to acquire. I haven’t even gotten into how much consumes cost. I don’t want to be rude but i assume you’re also not raiding.

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May as well ask that the gear drop already enchanted. But since it doesn’t that means it’s extra. So if you wish to go the extra mile to get an enchant that means some effort from you as you are choosing to get an enchant. So as you were told it is a luxury and you are complaining about the cost of a luxury item you can’t afford when others can.

Cowboy up, man.
You can get it if you want it enough.

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Ok so to be hyperbolic but in the opposite way, let’s make you grind 900 hours for 1 enchant to really make you earn it, it’ll feel so good and rewarding. This is how i can tell that you don’t raid you’re saying that getting enchants is going the extra mile when in reality it’s just the standard to get into raiding. When you get to raids you will understand what I am saying.

I’m not saying to make the drops 100% guaranteed but with the faster season can’t we fine tune the numbers like we have with consumables already ?

I’m already clearing BWL every week so I’m cowboyed up, if you’re being honest you know you’re talking about something your not taking part in.

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If your guild is requiring you to have it and you can’t keep up with the demand, find another guild? idk

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You haven’t addressed a single thing i brought up, like why even comment if you don’t know the current raiding scene. How would not buying gold be the only realistic option to raiding a bad thing ?

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I really cannot do anything about your need for (near) instant gratification. You know what you have to do if you need it. Posting here gets you player attention but not necessarily developer attention.

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I just think its dumb to comment on something your not taking part it and be like no just grind 12 hrs a day bro. How would fine tuning the drop rates hurt your game experience, like why is it a bad thing, to lets say instead of having to grind for 30 hrs for a full set of enchants to make that 10 hrs.

You’re basically saying just go and buy shady gold, instead of being like yeah lets find a way to be able to get your upgrades by playing the game go and buy illegal gold. Like why dude i dont get this, why.

Im hoping some community manager will pass the message on since its a common complaint.

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In the three hours you’ve been posting in this thread you could have knocked out at least half of those essences, more than that if you are a fisher.

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Bro I’m good, my 2 characters are fully enchanted and raiding every week. I also have gold stock piled and consumes. I’m fighting for the people that are quitting the game because they have NO option of playing besides dealing with shady third party websites.

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Nope.
Sure not saying that.

You’ve been advised of things you can do to get what you want. First response from Kekbot you didn’t even address. If you need your money now then you may want to look into gdkp runs.

What I have implied is that I believe you are less than motivated and may not be managing your time in game efficiently. Maybe one of your guildies that can afford things like enchants can give you some pointers.

Ah for a frĂ­end. Riiiiight.

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Lol dude, you don’t even raid you can quit being condescending. Maybe once you get into a raid you’ll understand why I’m saying what I am. You’re legit like the kind of person who thinks they know it all without having an ounce of experience. Go and perform surgery you Brainiac.

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And you still didn’t acknowledge the viability of gdkps for your friend.

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Do you know how GDKP gold is acquired ? Do you even understand the GDKP economy, can you see a downside as to why not buying upgrades every week and running GDKP just to farm gold is a garbage way to play the game ? Instead of playing raids to get loot you can play raids to get the scraps of the people bidding on items with illegal gold. You’re so out of the loop and dumb for being so confident in what you dont know.