BM with the atrociously hard bow to get, and 4 set, is very middle of the pack with ST damage. MM is even lower with ST damage but has insane value in M+ and raid due to it’s cleave and ability to aoe Burst very frequently.
BM has ZERO cooldowns. It just feels like such an incomplete class. So many m+ fights where bursting down adds or breaking shields is important.
we dont even have aspect of the wild anymore…
Call of the wild is an amazingly fun 3 min CD we can use… but its a big DPS loss. and it makes me sad.
Plz buff call of the wild to give us some burst. and maybe then BM can be top of the pack in ST and a ton more viable in content.
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BM does have cds, they just suck.
Stampede 30k dmg 2 min cd increases crit chance by 10% for a decent amount of time after getting hit by animal. Could be cool except if the target moves 3 feet to the side, they don’t get hit by any of the animals.
Call of the wild (i think that’s the name) 3 min cd calls 2 pets from your stable every 4 seconds. Would be cool, but in 413 pvp gear each pet hits for 3k and in total does about 50k dmg over the duration.
They should A) make stampede track against your target kind of like how a channeled spell does and B) make call of the wild summon pets every 2 seconds and have them all out for 15 seconds and be effected by bestial wrath and be able to use their pet abilities. It is a 3 min cd so it should be a powerful cd.
Yea, it honestly boggles my mind that such a weak 3 min CD made it into the game. Call of the wild with the bow on BM would be a fun interaction.
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No guys, definitely can’t balance CDS based on a bow that like 1% of active hunter players will get…
That is bad mechanics and stupid!
They gotta buff BM yes, the big burst cool down is okay not to have because if you have great sustain over long periods of time that’s better. Burst class is MM that is also getting neutered.
Bottom line is this, BM needs a couple reworks on those big cooldowns to make them more accessible, and a little more buff to the overall damage. That’s the class for you. Its easier to play, and its got the constant damage. Lets not go back to that beast cleave bs with BM hunters blowing things up with no skills.
Then lets rework MM hunters to give the burst on demand that we used to have a long time ago. Its a class that requires more skill in pvp for high end games but is there to deliver what is required.
SV is just garbage and they should go back to ranged.
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Wow Dev team has something against BM. They will never let it be the superior pet class ever again. They want you to play Lock or DK.
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no and no. Burst profiles are typically king in all situations. Steady damage is really overrated. and BM isn’t even amazing steady damage.
also MM is not getting neutered. they are changing a mechanic and making up the difference elsewhere… if those changes come through they might actually be more burstier.
I guess pressing fan of knives or multi shot then rapid fire is much much harder.
/sarcasm. BM cleave is difficult to maintain do to idiotic pet placement. You can be attacking one mob and 10 others on the right side of your pets aren’t getting touched.
The whole reason doubletap might be removed is because its broken in pvp… double tap aimed shot destroys in pvp and its ez
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No, it does not. it is DT RF that is destroying everything. And there are ways to counterplay the ability. DT AS got nuked 3 weeks into Shadowlands.
It’s so weird how BM is clearly intended to have Stampede and Call of the Wild as the main CDs but they devs didn’t bother to actually make them usable.
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For me, the real thing is giving them more aoe damage with beast cleave. It needs to be 100% like it was in Shadowlands.
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You get weaker the more bottom talents u choose lol. Like dire beast tree is way across the path it actually synergizes with
The Pets lack inherent abilities and passives that make them do dmg at this point, hindering especially SV and BM’s outputs. The generally only useful ones are Exotic or have inherently-defensive stuff besides just speed in rare-ish cases for PvP.
bm single target is actually pretty damn good. they need a bit of aoe help. if you dont believe me look at the logs for terros, mythic 40/100 of the top dps are bm which is a single target raid encounter.
You generally have to focus hard on single-target in comparison to AoE. Like the Single-target talents are often really weak or are harder to use than just a form of cleave/bounce.
Pretty much this. Stampede should go back to what it used to be, where all your pets in the stable were called to attack the target instead of the stupid line of animals that will miss the target if the tank moves one foot to the side.
I don’t even know why Stampede is a talent. It hits for zero damage and provides no bonuses and benefits to Hunter. It’s the weakest talent and has been since they nerfed it to the ground after MoP Stampede was bugged and one shotting people. Stampede could actually be used as a really nice burst CD with some other potential benefits to Hunters (maybe it knocks up all enemies in its path) etc. But no, it does zero damage and “snares” enemies. Such a joke of a talent.
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