Blizz has completely failed fire as a whole, from the complete failure to balance living bomb and ignite, to the playstyle we now rely on, the utter disconnect from how the spec used to be. Hard hitting pyros and meteors were so satisfying and im not talking about if we were topping meters, i mean in general even if we werent top we were having fun feeling like we had an impact, now we are literally the lowest DPS in the game, utterly useless and quite honestly a detriment to both raid and M+ content, other than creating your own groups or hoping someone carries you through you will never progress through content ANYWHERE near any of the other DPS specs. We all know this is prepatch but based off the already failures of balancing so far, fire mages will utterly retire until blizz figures out how to balance correctly. This is a FUN SPEC, a spec very unique from all the others and the playstyle can arguably be said to be one of the funnest, PLEASE blizzard do not ruin this and make it so we have to reroll just to be able to play the game.
They are doing to arcane what they did to fire right now, soon we won’t have a single spec to play with.
Another fire mage here. Wishing the spec was
Playable :
Yeah I swear they are were in love with their “baby” as others have called the mage class and everything was looking so good, then they decided actually no, screw everything they love and everything good that makes this class playable, lets nerf everything, change everything, gut them, then have to later on either undo what they did or have a completely useless class for who knows 1 season, 2, how long does it take to realize a mistake at blizz?
Biggest sad… Honestly im still gonna try atleast until M+ drops but likely after trying to run 1-2 im gonna see the reality of the meters especially in low key and only run delves to try to gear and hope for the best
What do you mean? Arcane plays really well right now, at least Sunfury does. Or are you saying that they’re treating Arcane like they used to treat Fire for the longest time in that it’s the best of the 3 Mage specs right now? If the latter I couldn’t be less sympathetic. As an Arcane Mage main I’ve had to put up with playing second fiddle to Fire for years. It’s about time we got some love too. And anyway it won’t last, it never does.
They’re slowly starting to nerf each and one of our abilities, arcane barrage was trashed and now deals no damage outside arcane charges and buffs, which by the way also got nerfed, buffs now give much less damage output and you still gotta reach 20 charges of arcane harmony, arcane missile was also nerfed now and can’t be used regularly outside clearcasting, and aether atunement was also nerfed greatly, I am not saying arcane isn’t ok, so far is the only playable spec, not to mention that they completely gutted and obliterated spellsinger.
I am not overly concerned. They always do this to preserve their precious “world first race” once the raid fully opens and they see the trash DPS data they will revert nerfs and buff specs where necessary. They also love releasing things in a broken state so that they can then turn around and say they listened to feedback and fixed them. We’ve seen this movie before, many times.
Yeah it feels to me like they boxed themselves in a bit by leaning so heavily into Living Bomb (i.e. just repurposing and creating 7 talents around a problematic spell as opposed to actually creating something new). Two sources of passive spread was inevitably going to be a nightmare to tune. Other than Convection, it has no real ST component, so as long as Frostfire Fire is also tied to LB, Fire pretty much also has to go FF for AoE and Sunfury for ST (assuming LB can even get tuned). Really wish it were better scaled around target count so we could pick a hero tree regardless of content but here we are.
Good News: Meteor was shadow-nerfed on pre-launch. It’s damage now splits evenly instead of hitting everything for a flat amount. Hope you weren’t planning on taking those Meteor talents to capitalize on Isothermic Core in Frostfire.
It’s actually pretty easy. Cap LB’s cleave by making it split evenly (Ironic given my comment above, I know). Since the number of targets it spreads to is already capped, that makes the damage very predictable. Then it can have good ST damage that is great for up to 3 targets but doesn’t get out of hand. Honestly them nerfing it’s damage so heavily AND it’s proc chance at the same time was absurd.
Playing Frostfire in pre-launch, ngl, this sucks Blizz. Do better…
Fire single target and aoe is horrible , even with using combustion. I wonder if there will be tuning soon. I cant believe you really went live with the state its in.
nah i went through shadowlands as a gutted frost mage and it stayed gutted all xpack. That was when they nerfed frost heavily 1 week before shadowland launch. And they did this to fire wich i am speced now but with TWW. Arcane isnt what it was in legion. Blizz doesnt know what to do with mage
I’m with you
Fire has been main since mop. The combos and ignite spread with big pyros was a fun and rewarding playstyle. Why have we had this generic combustion playstyle with no innovations for like 5 years.
So, all the mage barriers got nerfed by like 30% in PvP, and Arcane (Prismatic Barrier) still has the previous nerf in it to 14% magic reduction and like 24% dot duration.
And guess what, barrier is still 30% total absorb nerf. So, not only does it absorb less, it the previous nerfs still there.
Give me a break. Blizzard, is this intentional? At 588, it absorbs a little over 700k, when we have 4 million plus HP. I got hit by an EARTH Shock for 1.7 million damage.
Auto attacks from pets were 150 to 300k, so 3 to 6 hits and my shield gone.
Sucks man.