Please fix the mage towers so that more than 5% of your playerbase can enjoy it

no its not. i had a way easier time in legion with full on legendaries and artifacts and everything that actually worked properly. as someone that did them all then and now, i would stand to say it is at least 2-3 times more challenging now than it was during legion.

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Well yes. Just like you would have an easier time now if you had an extra 40 ilvls over what you get squished to.

well i guess i cant say how the mage tower is at this very moment. but when i did it in legion it was way way wayyyy easier than when i did it again in shadowlands.

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Currently, it seems like the Mage Tower is targeting a mix of NH and Tomb gear, of about 910 ilvl, and the 7.2 Traits for the relative scaling. Basically, before you overgeared it in Antorus.

When people are remembering Legion, They remember 950+, with the NLC fully unlocked. Wasn’t until that point that the mage tower became universally popular. So if that’s your memory of doing it in Legion, you effectively had a character then that was about 40% more powerful than you do now.

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lol. Yeah, I could see people complaining if people could just walk in and 1-shot everything for the appearances.

Not to mention all of the extra abilities.

They might let the challenges return in some form, but the original skins won’t.

Maybe some new recolors will be obtainable.

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And honestly, at this point they definitely should do something. For most classes the artifact appearances are still the best looking weapons in the game
so it still blows my mind that they just took them out with no way to get them.

Speaking of mage tower I wonder if Legion Remix is going to add arsenals that include the artifact skins that vanished with mage tower after Legion. Yes it would be like spitting in the faces of us who did the challenge back then but that never stopped Blizz before with a lot of things sad to say. Wonder how it’ll work all the same as we used artifact weapons in legion so most I can see is them doing like mists remix and doing armor skin bundles but we’ll see I suppose. (Also yes I am one who did at least two of the challenges in legion as I got the werebear for my druid and Xuen tiger fists for my monk
not touching that tower again though as the tank one was brutal lol )

not all players are interested in this type of content, in addition, the most people who were already got the original items.

There is no form of content that will appeal to all players.

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These people man. Yes it is overtuned, there are videos of how our stats are worse than what they were in timewalking previous before the current patch. Just For experience sake, as somebody who has done the mage tower on all 36 specs, the tuning currently is out of whack.

I went into there sometime when I started playing again with super basic gear gotten from leveling and whatever they gave us for doing a couple of things at the very start of the final dragonflight patch. Agatha, not that hard, on unholy, took maybe like two or three tries just because I had to remember what the mechanics did (and maybe one part of me just not paying attention)

I saw people saying how out of whack the mage tower is and I went back in for this patch. With pretty much heroic gear from the raid, I went to try agatha again and could just barely rotate cooldowns enough to just by a hair pass the imps healing her/ her barrier, then ended up dying to the group imps she spawns. I don’t think I ever got past 70% in further attempts, solely because of damage.

I went and tried the frost DK one and my god. two ticks when xylem ports away from his blizzard and I’m at 1/3 of my health and die from a frostbolt combined with the next tick. They’re hitting as hard as Super Zek’vir but without my damage being there, and my heals not doing much.
It is 100% overtuned.

There are videos of people using very specific gear and enchants to bypass the scaling on the Mage tower. Something needs to be changed. (I’m not interested in doing the mage tower again on all specs cuz the mount is whatever to me but I feel bad for people trying to go for it now as opposed to dragonflight) or Whenever they brought it back.

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Um
.what? I’m confused on your post. I have started doing the time walking mage tower this season (season 1 of War Within) and only have the healing one left to do

Ret paladin 630
Havoc DH 627
WW monk 555
Druid balance and bear (somewhere around 613)
Unholy DK 599

Currently leveling a priest and a shaman as I’m not sure which one I want to use for last mage tower.

What is giving you problems? Edit: I’m did not farm an “old content” / use pvp gear or any other weird methods found in some YouTube videos.

It’s easier than it was in Legion.

Has the player-base degraded that far in just a few years?

It is supposed to be a “challenge” after all.

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Apparently so. And I do also find them easier than Legion.

I’ll bet some version of it will be there. But not the original with the artifact rewards obviously.

It’d be neat if they added it in with new cosmetic rewards and tuned it to be moderately difficult at max threads and item level as a sort of “final challenge” for Legion Remix.

I don’t expect that I will ever rise to the challenge this event offers me, but I’m glad that it still exists there lurking in the background in case I ever suddenly change my mind.

I doubt it. No one is going to try to balance that with threads.

The intricate end game stuff will most likely get pulled. Just like the farm. So mission tables, the artifact talents and quests, towers on Broken Shore, etc. probably won’t be there.

I can see them giving us a weapon for our threads that’s a redesign of an artifact when we first enter and we’ve just got the zones to play through.

I doubt your doubt.

The point of remix isn’t to be balanced. If MoP was any indication, we’re SUPPOSED to roflstomp everything by the end.

I doubt that the Mage Tower will give the same rewards as it does in Legion or even on live. But I think it very likely that they let us stomp it with threads in remix given how beloved the Mage Tower is.

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I mean, I feel like “balance” will be a strong word considering what happened in MopMix lol

I think they can put it in and just be okay with the fact that anyone dedicated enough will steamroll it.

I dunno about that. The boss for Brewmaster has like 300k health and you’re scaled down to level 40, so you max out at about 2-3k dps.