The Shoulders on at least Male Orcs float above the model, looking funny on big sets of shoulders. They need to be fit better for the model.
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Agreed! The Upright Orc Male Shoulder positioning causes the shoulders to float very high and makes it difficult to fully enjoy the Upright Orc model.
During the 8.3 PTR, some changes were made to the shoulders that brought them lower, however it caused a number of other issues (such as with the weapon sheathing and clipping with the shoulder piece on the left side) that led to them reverting the changes. The only change to the Upright Orc shoulder positioning that made it into 8.3 (Live) was that they turned the shoulders out slightly (even though the floating was the primary issue).
As someone who has monitored this issue since the implementation of the Upright Orc model in 8.0, I believe (from my perspective as a player) that there are two parts to fixing the shoulder issues:
- Bring the shoulders slightly lower and inwards.
- Pull the Left-hand shoulder piece positioning slightly forward so that the front side of a number of shoulder piece models don’t clip into the front side of the Orc’s shoulder (e.g. Tusks of Mannoroth, Pauldrons of the Molten Giant, Honorbound Centurion’s Pauldrons (base version)).
As a reference (for an example of Upright Orc shoulder positioning that seems to fit much better): WoWHead’s Dressing Room model viewer seems to have different shoulder piece positioning for Upright Orcs than in-game (the shoulder pieces on WoWHead’s model viewer lay more directly on the shoulders than they do in-game). Why this is the case has to do with WoWHead’s model viewer, but it works as a great example of optimal shoulder piece positioning for the Upright Orcs.
Edit: just realized this was in the Transmog section, we should post about this in the Feedback forums.
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Agreed
Speaking of, where do we put that feedback specifically?
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I just posted the above under Shadowlands Alpha General discussion (may require Alpha access) - otherwise maybe under bug reports?
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It might too old of an issue to be a bug necessarily, just a suggestion for future stuff.
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Bear in mind - you can have well placed shoulders, or weapons that don’t clip through them. You WILL NOT get both. Too many shoulder and weapon designs of varying sizes to get away with that. Heck, you want tragedy? Equip the 7th legion 2h hammer on a human female, or just stare at the female goblin’s shoulder armor placement and despair.
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Sheathed weapons clipping into shoulders has always been a thing - absurdly floating shoulders has not. That’s where the difference lies: the only request being made here is for the character models to at least equal the standard that exists for the majority of other races (i.e. non absurdly floating shoulders, shoulders not clipping directly into body parts due to sub-optimal placement).
No where did I mention/request weapons not clipping into shoulder pieces (given based on the history of this game: this has always been the case and is largely unavoidable).
Regarding the Human Females: the issue is that their sheathed weapons are angled so that almost always clip directly through the cloak (which is easily fixed via angling/positioning).
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Agreed! I am disappointed every time I open the transmog window and all of the cool shoulders I have look like giant floating monoliths.
Just have to stick with bare shoulders for now, hopefully they address this.
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Yes, unfortunately even the Covenant Armor shoulders (see: Necrolord Plate) look really off-putting / ridiculous on Upright Orcs given how far they float above + outward from the Orc’s shoulders.
Hopefully they implement some sort of fix soon, because at the moment it feels impossible to fully enjoy my main (who I’ve had for 10+ years) when I can’t reasonably use a large part of the available shoulder pieces available for transmog…
I’d love to use the full Necrolord plate set, but as I mentioned: the shoulder pieces just look like they must be attached to my character’s shoulders with a foot-long pin.
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Some head pieces sit to high as well. Instead of covering the neck, it’s exposed.
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