Druids currently with astral form can MOUNT in moonkin form making any melee engage 10x harder. This was a bug with noggenfogger that was quickly fixed in classic launch.
Tree form in TBC, WotLK, and Cata never had any +armor modifier, this didnt become a thing until Mists of Pandaria when it became a 30s active cooldown.
Why are you giving them a 200% armor modifier in this version ON TOP of the dog SH_T 30% baseline reduced melee dmg and 100% hp?
I mean, I made a post in the past saying these devs take shrooms before clocking in but at this point I’m almost positive they’re hiring the local elementary 3rd graders in coding class to balance the game for an extracurricular activity.
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I’m literally looking at the spell on wowhead for all 3 versions right now as we speak
amazing way to try to deflect from the main point tho
imagine going onto forums and telling people they’re wrong when you in turn are the one wrong.
When I mained a druid in BC, the only form that didn’t gain extra armor was Cat. Trees did get armor, just not as much as the boomkin or bear. I think they had like 240% extra or something like that.
you’re not even sure what it was and you’re trying to say it did. check the tbc talent calculator on wowhead, it clearly shows it has 0 additional armor modifier
Even if they took Astral Form away… we just used Noggenfogger or the new Gob from the Reals vendor to mount in form.
All Astral Form did was take away a consumable.
I want a cooler looking tree! Jesus christ, we have to live with this pathetic droopy uggo
I can assure you that regardless of whether or not it works in Classic, it is intended as is in SOD. The developers have communicated with us on Discord and on Twitter about this very topic and Noggenfogger/Gift of Gob/Astral Form are intended to let us mount in form. They wanted to let us mount in Moonkin Form but there are technical hurdles that make it complicated so this has been the compromise. I have literally never heard of anyone complaining about this until literally right now.
It did, I just wasn’t sure about the percentage. I mained the class way back in the day.
I literally just looked through all of the druid discord AND all the tweets by the dev team. There is not 1 post or reply from any dev that addresses this issue. Being able to mount in a form that cannot be sapped AND has 360% extra armor is unfair. This is the only version of wow that currently allows that on top of the 30% DR from physical attacks you get. How is this at all fair?
You think its fine to mount in bear by using an exploit through noggens/gift? Theres a reason you cannoy mount in the form by itself. This is a bug and carries worse implications for pvp than you think. But yeah i get it, “I’m having fun sh_tting on all rogues/warriors who engage me, dont ruin my fun!” Not only do u have a 2.5s cast 3k crit spell every few seconds you can now also giga heal in boomy with 6pc T2 AND you want the safety of forms while on mount? gimmie a break.
Ah I thought this was a complaint about Moonkin Form. If it’s other forms yeah that’s concerning. Fortunately, it’s not, as I just tested it and you can’t mount in Bear Form using Gift of Gob or Noggenfogger. You can however mount in Moonkin Form, which is not immune to Sap. Hope this helps!
Also, there is definitely specific communication from developers in the Druid Moonkin discord about these buffs that let you mount in Moonkin. Sorry if you couldn’t find it!
During the hunt for Astral Form on September 25, the following was posted in the Druid Discord by a member of the druid community:
“Why do we get the overly complicated thing for a appearance and hunters and mages be like go to this vendor”
To which Aggrend replied:
“You don’t need this to function. Their stuff is gameplay-affecting. Other than being able to mount in form (which you can already do before this) this has no tangible gameplay gain. Its apples and oranges”
While this does not necessarily mean it’s an intended feature of Astral Form, it seems to have at least been known prior to its implementation, and then implemented as-is.
On Tree of Life granting bonus armor, it seems to have been introduced in Wrath with the Improved Tree of Life talent, which granted 67% bonus armor per point, for 200% at 3 points.
EDIT: Had forgotten a “does” somewhere. Also, looking into it, Tree also gives bonus armor in Cata, but only 15%? So not a whole lot
He also said “Noggenfogger is a rite of passage for Druids” (paraphrasing). Additionally, a change was specifically made to allow Goblins to mount so that Druids could use Moonkin Form to mount similarly to how Noggenfogger works.