Please finish all class balance before 11.1 releases

The end result of all balancing is that everyone plays the same five classes anyways.

You just shift five classes to a different five classes - there is no such thing as freedom of choice when it comes to mythic plus.

Just set the meta on day one, allow everyone to play those five best classes without fear of needing to re-roll.

Every competitive healer in TWW season 1 started off as a resto shaman and then had to waste all that effort and re-roll to disc priest mid-season.

It’s just grossly disrespectful to the players’ time.

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Just curious, should the balancing be based on individual spec or the group compositions that multiple specs allow by making up for each others shortcomings?

Youre terrible at the game and think everyone else should be too?

Yeah it’s actually crazy.

When blizzard announced their mid-season reworks of prot paladin, so many people gave feedback that this sort of game changing balancing is not healthy for mid-season and to just wait until season two.

Did blizzard listen? No.

What was the result? Everyone who rolled a prot warrior had the previous eight weeks of their lives wasted.

Wasted great vaults, wasted gold on enchants, wasted gold on crafted items, wasted time on learning to master the spec, etc.

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Did you forget bears exist? :frowning:

I think there would be 9 bears (3 of which might be the same player xD ) at the 3441 cutoff if the season ended today. But all those prot paladins is a sobering number. The game just feels like it is balanced like a moba and not an MMO.

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With all of the drastic changes that are still coming out in the PTR, I feel quite apprehensive about even attempting to play next season.

Why would I want to choose a class now only to have that choice invalidated in eight weeks due to the 11.1.5 reworks that will inevitably occur?

It honestly just makes me want to unsub and not play anymore.

Yes squishvegan does have three bears above cut off for fun.

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I often feel the way you do, especially being a tank main with only enough time to gear 1 tank. I just stuck it out with guardian druid in season 1 and once I got my portals, I didn’t feel any urge to push rating. Next season I doubt most pugs will take me in keys over +10-12 as a bear tank. I am debating just playing a DPS for the first time in years as my main, or quitting until things look better.

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No classes are useless if you play them to your fullest. Unless you’re doing world first keys, it literally does not matter what you play at all. Just play the game.

What is a “real key level” to you, out of curiosity? I did a 14 Mists months ago with my MW friend and we had few problems. All front page Mistweavers have 16+ timed and presumably had few problems. Just because something is deemed “optimal” and makes a key easier does not make the opposite nonviable. Again, unless you’re doing world first keys it literally does not matter what you play. Just pick a spec you like most and master it and you’ll most likely do better than hopping around.

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The last time I can remember when the meta didn’t drastically change mid season was DF season 3: we knew VDh would be meta at the start and they continued to be meta for the entire season.

DF season 2 had the Aug voker fiasco.

DF season 1 had the prot paladin rework.

Shadowlands season 3 I believe we knew the meta tank would be blood DK and it indeed continued to be blood DK for the whole season (can’t say for sure though, I didn’t start playing SL s3 until two months after it started).

Either way, it appears that mid-season meta changes are now the rule instead of the exception and it really just makes me tired.

Yes a 14 mists is not a real key and you could probably time it with a prot warrior and four ret paladins.

if they ship 11.1 with current tuning there will be specs that are 25% behind. They need to do more class tuning

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That’s completely fine. So long as we are aware of which classes are underperforming and they remain as under performers so that our time does not get wasted with buffs to them.

Just set the meta in stone on day one and let it be that for the full season. Do a balancing pass for next season.

I disagree with this sentiment. What if your chosen spec is 25% behind right now? Just accept it and not play?

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you spout that 18s are not real keys because world first pushers are doing 20’s and 21’s… Please enlighten us all with what key levels you personally are running, with links to your io profile? If its not 18+ then frankly it doesn’t matter what the “best” spec is as you pointed out even at 14 a prot warr and 4 ret pals could do it.

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You’ve evaded my question of what is a real key to you? What key level are you actually playing at that you are not familiar enough to realize the benefits of actually tuning as the season goes on?

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I don’t have a chosen spec or a preferred spec. I play what is best.

Don’t care what is best, I will play it.

oh yeah, it’s all about me. Got it

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You mean it’s all about me not wanting my time to be wasted by being forced to re-roll eight weeks into the season.

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Do you understand how selfish and entitled it is to ask Blizz to do 0 balancing for the entire season just so you don’t have to reroll? We need more frequent class balancing, not some arbitrary cut off for players that want to be the best.

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I think it’s more selfish for people to beg for balancing just so they can play their precious favourite specs every season regardless of what other people started the season as.

Personally I think it is way more entitled for someone to think that they deserve for their class to be the best every single season.

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Its ok. Blizzard forgets we exist all the time.

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