Please explain how

Classes Warlock
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How did rogues get a full rework, despite being amazing in all aspects of the game, and 2 warlock specs are basically unplayable, and not a single word is uttered by a dev?

Affliction is not fun to play, bad dps, clunky design, too busy, unrewarding gameplay, button bloat, directionless. A dot class that has no dmg in the actual spells, so you play a mini game of TRY TO PUT LOTS OF THINGS ON THE MOB.

Destuction, is without a doubt the worst designed thing other than affliction, once again the class fantasy of build and destroy with chaos bolts and infernals was ruined. Chaos bolt hits like a wet noodle, and the only dps CD they get is garbage. Once again low dmg profile.

Demo has a direction in mind, and good dps for all aspects of gameplay, but its repetitive and boring to play. Bring. Back. Meta.

How did the game progress so far, and have warlocks become a pale imitation of what they once were?

I wont mention a name, but i do know of one higher up mentioning how he was glad warlock sucked, and no king reigns forever, and hed rather us not play an entire spec.

It feels bad being a lock main for so long, and having developers with no direction and no creativity, taking no feedback from the community, and doubling down on bad game design.

Fix the class please!!!

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The two BIS trinkets for destro do help out. I only play destro, making cataslysm baseline would go a long way.

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blizzard is retarded dude they hate warlocks for sure

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The way i’ve always reasoned warlocks is that they’re scholars, that unlike others aren’t bound by conventions or morals and always seek the strongest of magics to incorporate into their arsenal - I.e. dabling with demons, fel fire, sacrificial magic, even necromancy to a degree…

Yet why bother to seek out fel-flame (chaos bolt) & other forbidden magics if they’re (by implementation) weak as can be…

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Warlocks, like hunters for a long time, and still to a point I guess, are treated like the red-headed bastard children of WoW. This game has always been focused around listening to the PvP kids which destroys PvE utterly. The only game I know of that makes the two work is Guild Wars/Guild Wars 2 which keeps the two seperate. I might be exaggerating a hair, but it always felt that way.

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Well it’s basically lock hasn’t been modernized. With all the melee gap closers and the reality you can do nothing but curse and fear an entire match the melee are still destroying you.

It’s not just PvP either. It’s a fundamental class design issue where they made us hard casters with little mobility. In PvP you’re either running the whole match or standing there trading poorly against certain comps. In PvE you’re doing too little damage because you have to move excessively.

It’s like someone arbitrarily decided lock needed to be a turret as the game moved away from vanilla design to modern design.

The only thing that temporarily fixes this problem is when haste numbers were so imbalanced cast times were irrelevant. Since they fixed the haste cap on lock there is no real way to fix the problem anymore. You just have to adapt to being trash.

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Rogues were hardly “amazing in all aspects of the game”, just ask any Assassin about their AoE previously.

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The only time in the history of M+ warlock has not had a top 10 spec was DF S1.

The only time since Highmaul warlock has not had a top 10 spec was Trial of Valor which was a half tier raid. Most of the time Warlock has had 2 or even all 3 specs in top 15 if not higher.

You can check Warcraft Logs for all of this information.

Warlock is so consistently good that it has a patch or two where it’s not top 3 and people freak out.

I would leave this out next time you post this take, this just made it too obvious that the entire post was bait.

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The amount of iteration that demo got over the 10.2 ptr cycle to fix the problem the devs made was so frustrating. I would prefer to still be affliction right now. I was so looking forward to this new tier bonus. But it feels like not being demo right now is griefing whatever content you try to do.

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Assassination would beg to differ.

“Unplayable” is an overstatement. Bad, yes. Unplayable, no.

Meta for demo was bad. Not numbers wise, but it didn’t fit the theme as well as the current one. Leave that to the demon hunters. Summoning hordes of demons is a much better theme for demonology. Also I don’t know how meta was any less repetitive as the current version.

But yes, our specs do need to be revamped and reworked.

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I don’t think there has ever been a time where all 3 warlock specs haven’t been in the top 26. No changes needed.

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1: 15/26 is still better than 40% of specs, 3/3 of your specs are above that, something single dps classes would kill for when their only dps spec is sitting at the bottom
2: Because you said something stupid, I’m going to make fun of you. You logged and posted your LFR blue parses. Any changes that happen are not affecting your +10 keys.

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Don’t play a class with a single dps spec then? If all your specs are dps then at least one of them should be top tier lol. The take about warlock in mythic plus is pretty cracked lol. Outside of shadowlands season 3/4 its been pretty mid to bad since legion. BFA it was a troll class in mythic+ until corruptions made everyone op.

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Demo is in a good spot right now, but I’m sure it’ll get nerfed to the bottom of the meters so it can have a slumber party with Affl and Destro.

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Man did i pick a bad time to come back to WoW to play Aff lock. Maybe its cause im rusty but my god does affliction suck…especially this week. between dodging 20 thousand mechanics and then moving for entangling i just feel useless. If i cant turret to spam seed or MR i cant do any damage. every burst window you think you might have gets interrupted. our insta cast does pitiful dmg so when im running around like a chicken with its head cut off im doing tank dmg.

just the design of these dungeons make me rage. stuff over your head that blocks your vision…weird terrain that gets you stuck for a brief second while trying to run…tight spaces…elevation changes.

so frustrated i just wanted to rant a little bit.

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I don’t think anyone would disagree. Warlock is usually a very strong class. But Affliction and Destruction are indeed near unplayable atm if you want to push anything. Destruction is a bit better than Affliction though.

If they just fixed those specs to be respectable, it’d be fine. But they are complete garbage and behind every other spec in the game by a considerable margin, worse off than Marksman, Windwalker or Shadow. Easily.

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Hell it is now better to not take any capstone talents due to how badly the redesign was.