And you could use at targets with 80% hp.
But they decided to get the lame bastion spear and make it baseline instead, such a shame.
I play Arms mostly only in PvP. And while yeah Fury does just wack harder im team fights… picking a class that hits harder doesn’t make up for lack of exp in PvP… Arms has way more utility to make up for not hitting as hard in a PvP setting especially. Which I am ok with!
Other people just call it button bloat… which seems crazy to me… I hate it when they dumb down specs. Sure some specs should be designed in a way that are easy for people to pick up and only have a few buttons… but I tend to gravitate towards the classes that might be harder to play or have more buttons but tend to perform better once you’ve learned them well. (Ie my disc priest)
I just prefer Arms because it doesn’t feel as braindead. Lol
If you actually felt this way you wouldn’t have made a forum post. Peope looking to always maxamize performance are players that don’t mind when one spec is better than the other. They do whatever is possible to perform the best they can.
You will be more than fine playing Fury for every fight this tier if thats what you prefer playing.
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C’mon dude, there’s people with overlap
Not really. The people who actually need to make those decisions about playing “the better tuned spec” over another in PvE are so few. It’s Title Pushers. It’s Hall of Fame players.
Unless the spec is tuned so poorly (20% or more from the best spec your class has) you’re more than fine playing w/e spec you like if you don’t fit in those categories.
If you feel like you’re holding your raid or friends back, there are other things you can do to improve (Cooldown timings, uptime management, etc.) before a spec becomes a limiting factor.
Play what you like. You’ll always do better and have more fun playing something you enjoy. If you dread playing Arms than don’t.
Quite literally one of the Best DPS Warriors (Critcake) on his stream yesterday continuously had an MS Paint banner that read, “Fury Nerfs are fine. Maybe you play Arms for Single Target fights, or don’t ¯_(ツ)_/¯”.
Play what you like.
Critcake also has multiple videos voicing his problems with arms, for context on the level I am playing at I am going for early CE this tier and will be playing whatever is best for my group no matter what. - not that it’d be needed, but because I get more enjoyment out of being optimized.
Than if this decision was already made for/by you, why are you here posting on this forum?
If you would like to see changes to Arms so its more enjoyable for you than post about them. But don’t come here with the guise of, “Woe is me, I don’t wana play arms, Blizzard don’t make us play arms.”
Also good luck with mythic prog, if you’re really looking for an Early CE than hopefully you’ve done your research and such because its a big step up from AotC.
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critcakes doesnt really even enoy the game anymore. He just cant quit
I personally love Arms much more than Fury and I enjoy fury. But I do agree with you on some parts. Thunderclap needs to hit harder, but I already took rend off my bar. I just use Thunderclap to apply and spread Rend bleed damage, slam hits vastly harder as a filler than rend so I never press rend.
I would also bake in the sweeping strikes buff, why it is its own button and on a GCD I will never know, into Cleave. Once you cleave, you get the buff and since cleave also has a CD, depending on resets, it kinda works like Fury wirlwinds cleave spread in my mind. Those two fixes and I think Arms would be perfect.
Also maybe make demolish usable while moving, like fists of fury. I love the animation of it but it rooting you in place is not great for a lot of mechanics.
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The root would be fine if it was cooler looking. Like earthen stuff pops up on your feet to hold you in place while you bring your weapon FAR back over your shoulder and swing. That would be cool af.
It will still be a problem seeing this game is all about mobility now. Being rooted for an attack is a death sentence in higher end content.
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Nah, Warrior discord for the most part is fine with the nerfs. Most of us understand it’s not the end of the world.
Is it fun getting nerfed, nah. Are warriors use to it, yeah.
Happens all the time.
We have a lot of good info there. A fair amount of trolling as well, but that’s to be expected.
is Arms viable? I might play it.
They can nerf fury by 80% I don’t care. I’ll make it work for the content I do. I can’t speak for anyone else but for my content I will still play and enjoy.
It’s switched this time round. That said, even when Fury was super simple there was still a massive swing from poor play to max play.
Fury picked up a lot of speed during Legion and forward. BFA was pretty much the only time I went full Fury while playing. Though Wrath was pretty good to. It’s been around for sure, but only the last few expacs was it really noticeably ahead.
Very much this.
Yes, Arms is viable. Might even pull a head a little in some ST fights.
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u will be forced to play the better classes the higher up blizz devs play and you will like it. Warriors can tank and dps so they shouldnt be able to be the best at either or those things.
Man, I WISH arms regressed 15 years! 15 years ago, arms was the cat’s pajamas. 15 years ago, I was arms-ing my little gnomey butt off. 15 years ago, if you asked me to respec to fury, I’d be like, “But I don’t wanna die…”
Since then, of course, I’ve happily switched to fury. I don’t recall which x-pac it was… probably Cataclysm or Pandaria. Happy to heft two giant weapons around and spin like a whirling dervish. And I totally agree with you, I don’t want to go back to arms! But for some reason, I survive better currently as arms. I can face elite bees in the bee trees when I’m arms. If I go in there as fury, I’m fighting for my life. If I go in as arms, I’m flexing on those bee-birches all day. I love it. I love hitting things SUPER hard. But I also loved fury and it’s multi-target madhouse of damage. Don’t take that from us, Blizzy, please!
I was sayin’ somewhere else, what warriors really need more than a nerf, more than s buff, is a redesign of the aesthetics to our abilities. Arms attacks should SOUND hard. Deep cuts should spill gouts of blood. Whirlwind shouldn’t sound like I’m missing everything I hit with its big WOOSH sound. I want to FEEL like I’m a murder machine. I don’t. I feel like I’m just a flurry of white noise. Pour on the blood effects. Slam on the intense sound effects! Make us feeeeeeel like warriors! Please!
Seriously, get to level 80 first. With your achievements you don’t need to be focusing on what spec is optimal, play what feels good to you. There are multi glad and rank one players that play the spec they like more and still obtain glad, even when their spec is not even a talking point in the season i.e. Vanguards.
One thing they also need to fix is the glyph situations. Deep wounds glyph and thunderclap glyph doesn’t work outside of prot. It is terrible.