Bro, you’re queueing at noon on a weekday.
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The hot take of “just reroll,” is boring and uninformed. Stop saying it. It’s not a good solution. It won’t work for 99% of people. It won’t make the game better. It won’t make players happy.
There is this extreme sense of entitlement that resonates with every post that is opposed to these changes. They all kind of have the same connotation and essence. Faction A is getting a problem fixed, therefore Faction B should have a problem fixed regardless of whether the problem is unique to Faction A or not.
People say things under the guise of long term game health, but none of them actually care about that and it’s really obvious. You care about what benefits you and you alone. Like I said before, if the shoe was on the other foot you would be just as concerned as I am. I want the factions to be balanced just as much as anyone else, but the BG queue problem is not about faction balance. Alliance don’t want it to happen because, “it wouldn’t be fair that our problems aren’t being addressed.”
This is a positive change that needs to happen. If it causes faction imbalances they can adjust for it, but the preliminary data suggests it won’t.
Do I need to laugh or can you already tell that is a hilarious situation that Blizzard will not facilitate. Can you imagine the people who would come on here and break down if Blizzard gave the Alliance a bone at the end of this? Tell me you’re joking.
You’re also giving Blizzard credit to put thought and effort into the game.
I don’t care if they fix the horde queues they should but reality will hit you and the biggest problem is honored gained. It’s not any quicker as alliance when we lose every match. Maybe a little faster but who cares it’s still 300+ hours lmao it’s a joke for both factions
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Wouldn’t it make sense to fix the issue that was there first? Especially when it’s conveniently the cause of your queue timers, as well? If nothing else, putting forth some effort toward doing so would demonstrate good intent.
Again, it doesn’t suggest that at all - it merely tries to suggest suggest that it didn’t cause further issues during that three day period. Huge difference.
Furthermore, several servers have dissolved from the alliance side since this change was announced. I can think of one specific guild that cited the “writing being on the wall” from this change, realizing that their previously imbalanced server would just become worse in the long-run. Unfortunately, a large portion of guilds from those servers transferred to Benediction, which is in turn ruining another server in the same (reversed) way.
Whether or not it’s based merely on perception is largely irrelevant; this is still an effect that would not have happened if the efforts were directed toward faction imbalance instead of this not-in-the-spirit-of-TBC HvH implementation.
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I still fail to see what any of this has to do with BG queue times! This is a completely separate issue that doesn’t seem to be correlated with one another.
I am basing my opinions off the only facts and numbers on the matter that we’ve been given. If you want to believe public perception and anecdotes that’s on you.
thats definitely not true. all of the gear that you would get from pve and gem resi into you would want to eventually replace with the actual pvp gear. its only a placeholder piece. its very unlikely that you go into arenas with less than half of the gear youre supposed to have and do fine. and by fine i mean glad/r1. sure you could get 2k without much resi, but 2k isnt “fine” imo.
You really can’t understand how one directly causes another? Seems like willful denial, especially if you’re smart enough to manage and lead a guild.
Your ability to misunderstand astounds even me. It’s not about what I believe, it’s about what this perception is causing in the community - regardless of the discussion around whether or not it’s justified.
Also, the “data” they provided is not data, but ambiguous statements about data that they looked at. It can’t really be treated as data in any sense of the word. Finally, the statements they made about said data didn’t even address our concerns over what the long-term implications of this change would be. And if they had addressed them, it wouldn’t be reliable because it was a three day test. Of course tons of horde are going to queue during that three day test, lightening the impact on the world. Saying that happened in a three-day test of HvH battlegrounds is nothing surprising - thanks blizzard.
It’s also not an “anecdote” that these servers died lmao
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Was taking about the blue PvP set, not the arena set. arena epics > PvE epics for the arena use. My point is to get into arena and get started you really don’t need the PvP blue set at all, it’s not required in any way.
If R1 is just doing “Fine” by your definition I’d love to see what excellent is.
Then it’s not that big of a deal, is it?
You could’ve rerolled during the downtime in Classic. Clearly you chose not to. It’s your fault.
No. The only entitlement is from players refusing to reroll.
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You could have looked anywhere online this is not new content…
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How is it a self created problem? We are consumers. We make choices about how we want to play the game. Blizzard is the designer. If there are problems with the game, isn’t it blizzards responsibility to correct them? Is there a universal law that saws there has to be 50/50 horde/alliance balance? Is it really a game if blizzard mandates that some of us have to play alliance to appease the minority of the player base? Are you even a conscious being? I find it unlikely considering you haven’t thought of all that for yourself.
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If this was a modern game, sure, but this is a recreation of a game from 15 years ago.
what time were they taken… 3am?
that’s the zoomer way- they cry to get their way. they cry when someone disagrees. they cry when someone proves them wrong with facts. they cry when no one believes their BS. they just… cry.
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And this is a typical response from the faction that is being catered to. When you step into the shoes of the other faction then you migjt start to understand the frustratiin and have a little empathy.
You can try to brush it under the carpet all you want. Its beyond just oh it will go away. Nope it is infuriating at this point. I can only speak for myself but it beyond the tipping point for me. I dont expext a fix because faction A got one. You are missing the point completly. I am fed up with being ignored. Not just here and there. I am fed up with the MAJOR issues being ignored. Then faction As issues are addressed over and over. Not just fixed, but they are given priority and addressed almost immediatly.
You keep on thinking you can just tell us we are overreacting. Its not going to fly this time.
As for the reroll argument, the only thing people are doing is replying to the arguments that are put up, supposedly as reasons that it doesnt make sense. For example, it is unreasonable to expext someone to reroll and just give up all of the time they put in and their achievements. I would absolutlely agree with that. Except then i watched people do it. They rerolled from thier warriors in classic to hunters and warlocks so they could be fotm dps. They rerolled from thier class to make a brand new palidan so they could play the shiny new faction class. They have proven that if there is something they want then they are willing to reroll for it. So yes, rerolling if you want faster que times is absolutly a valid suggestion.
Except it’s not.
I rerolled from shaman to Warrior and Druid in TBC. It’s one thing to change your class as it has little to no impact on your community or social circles. It’s another to completely change your faction and not be able to play with your friends anymore. I think most people would rather play with their friends or people that they have formed relationships with rather than starting fresh only because they don’t want to wait in queues. It’s just a dumb suggestion and we both know it.
We are getting honor from wrong patches, Why should a player fix problems that blizzard made for the players?
Maybe you and your friends should have had that discussion before tbc came out. Maybe you should rolled alliance if pvp is that important to you.