Just like Blizzard didn’t cater to the alliance in BFA and give them free end game raiding gear and other unfair advantages…? LOL
I know… Everyday I think “is this the day blizzard caves to horde demands?” Surprising it hasnt happened yet
Why not? 
No one will explain this to me. All people tell me is ‘long queue times’ or something. 
Blizzard did something about Phase 2. They release half of Phase 3 early… that was probably a major scramble on their end… so I’d say they took it pretty seriously.
Its still fundamentally easier for Alliance premades to effectively enter a single instance than an organised Horde premade when A get instant queues and H doesn’t.
The option to queue as a group should be enabled to balance this out despite population issues and bias Alliance opinion.
Pathetic, tribalism stance right there.
You do realize that the Horde represent the majority of the Classic community right? So, when a majority encounters a large scale issue you do not want any form of resolution made purely for the sake that the problems do not impact yourself?
That’s genuinely some pathetic thinking if you ask me, fixing this issue would benefit yourselves just as much but you’re blinded by hate and revenge over a 15 year old game purely because you’re stuck in a tribalistic mindset that doesn’t allow you to make compromise on issues if it’s not directly about yourself.
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Ah, so you are here. Just selectively ignoring responses you don’t like.
Typical and pathetic.
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I believe that if Blizz did do anything about the premades it would just increase Horde que times.
And that’s why your queue times are long. Don’t advocate for punishing the Alliance just because you chose the faction that you knew would be overpopulated.
Strange, it is severely underpopulated on my server.
Please tell me how I could have known this when people were picking servers, let alone current day.
A single official source would be awesome - if you have it, pray share.
And by underpopulated, do you mean cross servers? According to the only sources I’ve seen, it is relatively balanced across servers.
If you know anything about WoW and the Horde’s popularity in Retail WoW you should’ve known that this popularity was going to translate onto Classic WoW. Are you really going to suggest that the Horde is the lesser popular faction on WoW?
Except alliance players are complaining too LOL
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Not at all, I’m inquiring how you could know this on a server-by-server basis. On my current server and many servers, Ally are very much the dominating server.
My server, Heartseeker, is around 75-25 Ally favored if not more. Most PvE servers are Ally dominated.
Additionally, retail and Classic are very different metas. Are you really going to suggest that it is a direct correlation? If so, why isn’t everyone a troll?
Further, how should I have known? Where is this info? What about new players that may not “know” this? I haven’t played retail in a long time, but am aware that some servers are extremely Horde bias and others are extremely Alliance favored. Nobody could know which would be which and how they would change over time.
Since you know so well, please share a single official source for this info. Just one.
You also failed to answer the central crux of what you quoted. But you know, what else can be expected from a typical forum tribalist. It’s especially comical from a retail Horde.
I don’t care about any of that stuff.
It’s just this AV doesn’t represent in anyway the vanilla experience. Vanilla never had the game in this particular shape so to someone who played vanilla it feels like a retail nightmare.
Thrown into random groups with random people and no ability to play with people you know? Sounds like what we were trying to avoid by asking for classic.
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This. So its ok for alliance to cry about a problem and demand a solution (and get it) but if horde do its “tough luck kiddo”
BTW i dont sit on either side of the fence. WHile av queue times suck i dont think theres any reasonable way to solve it without breaking the game
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Yes. Heartseeker and a few PVE servers are about the only servers with more Alliance than Horde, lol. Every other fully populated PVP server is overwhelmingly more Horde dominated or at least leans more Horde. You’ve admitted it yourself “PVE servers” are Alliance dominated. Other than Heartseeker nearly every PVP server leans Horde. There are more Horde who want to PVP because it is touted as the cool “PVP faction” so that is why Horde queue times are long. You have way more Horde queueing for battlegrounds than you do Alliance. If the game was balanced as you claim then both factions would have similar queue times.
the alliance are still cheating in av solo pulling derk they should fix that.
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I made no claims of balance at all.
You made claims and fail to provide any type of source whatsoever. You’ve just stated that certain servers are Ally favored (which without a source is also sheer speculation, as is my statement concerning Heartseeker).
Balance also doesn’t necessarily have a direct correlation to queue time, which can be influenced by multiple variables such as PvP participation rate by faction.
You also stated “a few PvE servers,” yet each one I’ve played seems very Ally imba. Can you provide any source at all?
My point is this: nobody can know on a server bases what the “dominate” faction will be. Except for you it seems…
Please, one source. You also claimed that dominate faction would somehow translate from Retail to Vanilla - yet the games are completely different.
I don’t see a bunch of mechagnomes (or whatever they are called) and trolls running around. I see Dwarves and Orcs.
It would help if you could at least pretend to know what you are talking about.
You aren’t supposed to be premade running AV. PERIOD.
Luckily you have near instant queus and can immediately try again if you didn’t all get the same game.
And this is where you just look stupid… Horde can’t premade queu AV because they get scattered across 20 games and it takes 20+ minutes to queu. Alliance ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE able to premade queu AV either, but are.
This never would have been a problem if idiots weren’t lobbying for Xrealm bgs in the first place. I play on a relatively balanced realm, and my queu timers are substantially worse than both retail and even Vanilla pre-xrealm tech… This is a problem caused entirely by blizzard (for being too stupid/lazy to actually attempt to establish overarching faction balance) and players being too short sighted to actually ensure that they did their jobs. If only someone had repeatedly pointed out the consequences of xrealm tech and had seen this all coming (oh wait, I did…multiple times). Those same morons are dead set on classic realms not being seasonal, and now making threads crying about how no one wants to do 5mans anymore.
Moving on with your premise, removing the number tags entirely isn’t the solution. Instead just make the number hiden until joining the game. Then your friends who want to join you can manually queu up for that game if they’re inclined, but any groups trying to exploit their way past the queu system have to take what they get.
Furthermore, declining a BG (or letting it time out), whether joined or not, should result in deserter debuff.
Beyond that, since Alliance queu timers are so short that any number of people queuing in the same few moments seems to get into the same game, perhaps some form of a mild randomizer could be implimented as well, to better disperse players away from exploiting their way into an unofficial premade situation…
Finally, all they have to do for the bg itself is fix the situation that allows a team to skip every warmaster/marshal and murder the boss at the onset, before even attempting to burn a tower. The main appeal for AV right now outside of rep is the disproportionate amount of honor being generated because of the zergs. Fix the ability to zerg it down, and the BG’s honor/hour gains will dramatically drop off, as will it’s desirability for “premades”.
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Then why are you asking for a source when the data for this isn’t even available?
I’m putting two and two together. You wouldn’t have long queues on Horde if there wasn’t so many Horde queuing for battlegrounds. Horde don’t have longer queues for no reason at all. People join Horde because as I said it is touted as the cool PVP faction and more “skilled” faction and so more people join Horde to PVP because they believe it means they will have an easier time. This is just the product of the gameplay lore and fandom of the game and there is no fix for it.
Retail WoW and Classic WoW are different games but they still overlap with eachother. It’s the same thing in Retail WoW 20+ minute Horde ques and instant ones for Alliance. That’s why I said if anyone knows anything about WoW they would’ve seen similar patterns emerging in Classic WoW.