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I’m pretty sure that your first point (the one about everyone being terrible at the game in 2004-5) is the most important thing here. People didn’t understand a lot of what was going on, and that goes for both players under-performing in certain classes/roles and also other players evaluating what was good or not.
Players going back into classic with those types of class prejudices are going to be shocked when they run into holy pallies who actually crush meters because they have been getting better at the game for the last 15 years. I think its all going to work out pretty quickly.
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Don’t mistake a couple people you know about being bad as everybody being bad.
We knew about theorycrafting and min/maxing back then. Plenty of people knew what they were doing and were good at the game.
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Your friend is correct. Paladins where great buff bots and ooc ressers. I would not touch a druid as they where trash.
@Mordicant Yes! Thank you! That is pretty much my point here. I’m glad you get it. But you’re probably right, it will work itself out. I guess a small part of me was just worried it’s going to be the next “ilvl requirement” thing. Oh, you’re WHAT CLASS? No, you cannot play with us! I just want everyone to go knowing we’ve all learned a lot, and let’s realize that, and have some fun. Also, didn’t you only need like 10 people who knew what they were doing and 30 warm bodies for MC? How about we calm down here. I guess that’s a whole other long rant.
This is all very optimistic and I like that – but the harsh reality is, when aggro continues to get pulled off the Paladin Tank in a raid, the reality of the class preference is going to supersede said optimism.
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Speak for yourself.
Some players had already been playing MMO’s for 5-10 years. WoW wasn’t rocket science.
To quote a wise man (myself):
The problem is most of these players were young back then and had never played an MMO before. Because they played appropriately so and keyboard-turned, squealed in Vent, back-pedalled, didn’t bind and couldn’t organise themselves/learn the game relatively quickly in their eyes everyone must have played like that.
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I mean, we all know paladins didn’t have a taunt, but if they gear with spell power and take consecrate from the holy tree they were fine dungeon tanks. That’s another thing, not EVERYTHING is raids.
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They were always fine as Dungeon Tanks, and I never disputed that. They’re just not fine as primary Raid Tanks.
Believe me, I wish your optimism would change the meta. I genuinely mean that. Alas, the game was not designed for it though.
Meta or not, I’m pretty sure I could raid heal as a druid, paladin or shaman just fine and I’m just really surprised some people think that is not the case.
Did I say Paladin’s couldn’t Heal? Read my post again.
I also never said paladins could raid tank (Did you read my OP?). Why are we fighting here? Let’s be friends.
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Nobody is fighting you. 
My reference to Paladin Tanking was in contrast to your optimism that people now know the game better, and that will be enough to work around the mechanics. My point was simply that it will not be.
Because as much as Tank knowledge has improved, so has Healing and DPS. And when DPS is hitting harder, the aggro meters will be taking a beating also.
I see your point. I guess that’s true, I didn’t think about that pivotal change in
(what was it, WOTLK) when I for the first time heard dps yelling at a tank for not holding aggro when back in the day it was the exact opposite attitude. It will be interesting to see how this all unfolds now.
Who’s to say that the knowledge of wow classic in this thread isn’t just being digested from the vast amount of sites on the internet dedicated to wow classic.
Back in vanilla we didn’t have as many resources that are out now. Even thottbot was limited. Most of the stuff was data-mined and not proven. It took skilled individuals to theorycraft and test things before most of the knowledge became available.
Also it didn’t take me that long as a rogue to know to wait for 5 sunders before attacking.
Exactly this! It will be a cold shower for many newer players that they’re just going to have to put the brakes on rather than rush for the highest meters.
Lol everyone being terrible is why I was the second best healer in my guild as a resto druid. I just timed my heals for damage. We cleared everything up to naxx (not c’thun).
Oh, I remember many a times back in classic when my husband would yell “Wait for at least 2 sunders before you attack!”
It definitely did not take 40 fully functioning, talented people back in vanilla, which is why I find this whole min/maxing WE’RE GONNA BE SERVER FIRST thing hilarious. Play for fun people. But whatever, to each their own, do what makes you happy.
A great many did know what they were doing because they came from other MMORPG such as EverQuest. They knew group mechanics and learned the way WoW did things. Those people taught others.
There were certainly many players who just winged it, but then that’s true even today.
I can tell by this statement you and the OP were both very bad ( judging from this opinion you still might be pretty bad.)
Pallys were out of combat rez…like what??? The 2nd best healer in the game pre naxx and arguably the top healer in naxx was just an out of combat rez and buff bot???
This stigma where “we were all bad back then” is crazy…some people were really bad, some people still are really bad.
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