Please Buff Nightborne Racials

Yea the mailbox is really cool, but im talking about the throughput racials. 1% magic damage looked good at first glance but as all of us found out after the math guys got a hold of it, its the worst for every single spec in the game including casters. Its one of my favorite allied races, but the min max side of me is making it hard to main one =( please help!

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None of the percentage bonuses from racials are particularly meaningful.

They either provide stuns, out of combat utility or they don’t matter.

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Thats true in most cases comparing the percentiles to one another, but if you look at say the difference between a nightborne warrior and a tauren or dwarf warrior and the difference is quite significant, that being said the utility aspects are usually more important and on that note, nightborne’s slow is pretty useless as well as it requires you to be very close to the target.

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Love this race. Agreed their racials are not great. Neither is their customization

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The one thing that this racial has is near 100% use for all features.

+1% Magic damage is calculated as anything that isn’t physical.

Frost
Fire
Holy
Shadow
Shadowfrost
Divine
Nature
Frostfire

This means any feature that uses any of these sorts of elements gains the extra damage bonus. A rogue’s poison damage will be slightly stronger than per say an undead. Nightborne are ever so lightly stronger spell DPS than any other caster. Whereas other races have resistances, or the void elf who has a proc wait for 5% extra shadow damage or healing.

I’d argue that in comparison to Void Elves, Nightborne spell DPS are on par damage wise when at the same Ilvl and class, if not excel just ever so slightly on that metric.

I will agree that the Arcane Pulse Racial needs to have a lower cooldown. It’s not very useful being a melee range nova that slows. Its damage is pathetic, and doesn’t offer much.

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I would appreciate a racial for my Gnome Rogue called ā€œKnee Stabbing Spreeā€ which is a cute way to reduce the movement speed of all enemies within 10 yards by 50% for 10 seconds.

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I like this idea.

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Its true in almost all cases, especially with the stat squish.

A tiny percentage boost is really almost never (99.9999%…, almost a statistical anomaly) going to mean you don’t have to hit a target one more time. It just isn’t weighty enough to change the amount of times you need to attack a target to kill it.

Up until ā€˜average number of hits to kill an enemy changes’ the percentage adjustments are utterly trivial.

Going a little bit of the math for 1%. On a long term is an ignorable amount.

1% of per say… 875 is just 8.75. You’d be seeing about 884-885 in damage.
Void Elves’ proc for an extra 5%. is 43. On the proc chance of a 33% chance with a 60 second cooldown. This proc is also never confirmed so you could be fighting to get the extra 5% for a bit of time due to RNG gods being dumb.

8-9 extra damage seems small, but applies to every attack. You may see that a Nightborne will have done ever so softly more damage. Over 240 seconds, doing about 875 with a 1.5 sec spell spam would get you around 140,000 damage. Nightborne will likely inflict 141,440 damage with that extra damage bonus.

Its still a small amount, and my formula is not realistic. But you do a bit more damage consistently with magic.

Solution is simple.

Agreed, they really do need a buff.

The snare in terms of utility is easily inferior.

The Mailbox is worthless, in the few times I cannot locate a mailbox. I have katy stampwhistle.

I spit on all the cringe lords that tried to paint that racial trait worth anything.

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ā€œBite Ankleā€

Slows enemies and applies a weak DoT/Slow.

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I like a free 2% to everything.

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It’s currently simming pretty well for Horde races in SL for most casters. Meanwhile Vulpera is almost a dps loss to use.

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worst racials ever , outside casters and even that …there are way better options

the lack of customization doesnt help , the whole race was rushed and blizz doesnt care , SL could have been a good time to update

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They definitely need more customization options, and the cd of arcane pulse could be reduced by a min or min and a half. This would solve the racial imbalance; unless the magic dmg buff really is inferior to the void elf’s dps buff. In my opinion Stuns are superior to snares, especially when pvp is considered.

While they’re at it. More customizations too. It is after all, the hardest race to unlock. At least it has been for me. I’ve still not done it.