I actually dont even play rsham anymore, so I can’t offer solid advice to whats wrong here. But this healer has consistently been the worst in raiding and m+, while, arguably, the most gimmicky in pvp. Its been the most under represented in high end keys across almost every season, has the lowest healing logs in raiding across 3 tiers, and, strangely, is actually viable in pvp but just stays in ghost wolf form and feels silly. Would love to see this class get some love, as it was my OG spec that got me really interested in healing back in WOTLK.
Resto shaman just recently received significant buffs to help it in both m+ and pvp.
Resto shaman is completly viable in raids. Hpal and disc were just OP and being significantly nerfed next patch.
Resto shaman is more than viable to mid teen keys which is way more than 99% of the actual m+ community is doing.
PVP wise shaman survivability was gutted because mongo comps have zero idea how to cc and hard swap.
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Ok.
Wait what
Logs are not a good way of judging healers.
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I can honestly say I don’t quite believe shamans are that bad in keys. I don’t think they are any worse than monks and better than priests. It’s the hard casts that ruin it for high keys. Druids are just too fricken mobile to be compared too. But druids also can’t save the day with dunk heals. Shamans pump out dunk heals but tend to lack in the topping area.
If you’re just planning to stay under 15 then shamans are great. I just got tired of not being picked because of class even though my io was over 300plints higher than the person making the group. Now on a druid I get into keys that are too high for my io.
Community just watched too much of the mdi. The buffs to shaman were needed and boy were they good.
This mentality plagues a lot of classes and has hit shaman hard this whole xpac in one form or the other.
Even if a shaman does do well it is always well they are gimping their group or they had to build around the shaman flaws.
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resto shaman throughput can be significantly hampered if the raid is taking little damage or if there are too many healers in the group and the other healers are just sniping heals. This is due to the way that our mastery works. We heal significantly more the lower hp the group is. So the devs balance around that. So if they balance around the raid being consistantly around 50% hp then above that mark we’ll do worse. If the raid is below that we’ll do better.
If the resto shaman is equally geared as the other healers and is at the bottom of the charts, it means that individual is just bad or it’s time to get one of the other healers to go dps.
I can assure you resto shaman is more than viable, I was watching a dps main heal a +23 as a resto shaman and he was still able to pull 30k dps throughout the dungeon and time it and I swear he wasn’t even healing properly lol
Can that be that the tank was really talented and didnt need much healing?
All I can tell is that resto shaman is very OP in battlegrounds.
its a +23, the tank only has to pull and use CD’s at the highest dmg points in the dungeon which is a quick google search away, the hard part is healing and dps doing high dps and focusing on proper interrupts/ use of defensive CD’s
Let me know when you do a 23. The snarky ones never actually push keys.
LOL. What I find funny is we could say the exact same to you.
What’s even funnier is your initial comment about the shaman healing a 23 is the typical BS comment that keeps shamans down.
Herp derp he musta been carried by a god mode tank.
So once again the only way a shaman can heal an extremely high key is to be carried.
My comment about the tank was genuinely asking if it was just a great tank. But hey, everything in this thread is about playing the victim and ignoring actual stats. I’ll leave ya to it. I’ve already picked my shaman as far as I care to. I personally feel that since you haven’t experienced the higher keys you shouldn’t be giving advice and shouting down the people above you. But I’m certain that you watched a stream where one of the best shamans in the world did a key. You are now the expert. Please, I am not worthy.
You always feel that you’re being attacked rather than trying to be productive. I’ll leave you to mope I’m this thread now.
LOL per usual the truth does in deed cause rectal pain.
Peace out.
Brother I see no confusion, my comment simply stated that a dps main( DRJAY) was playing on an alt resto shaman and managing to pull 30k overall dps on a +23. Now sure you can argue that the tank must have been a god and the dps must have been doing god numbers and managing defensive and interrupts and stuns perfectly but what you are failing to see is that a +23 has mechanics that are just completely stupid, per example tantrum mechanic in underrot which requires the healer to heal 5x 80% health pools every 2 seconds. My point is that there is a limit to what each player and role can do, in a +23 even if the tank and dps play like complete pro’s but the healer is not performing…the key will deplete. So asking the question is shaman viable healer and my point that a resto shaman can easily manage healing a +23 and managing to do 30k dps overall AND not even track tidal procs or run high tide build should prove that a resto shaman running ideal healing build+ traits and understands their class could easily heal +15 which only 1% of the population actually runs. Now if you want to go deeper and do a +20 which only 0.1% run then that is also viable with good enough tank and dps who can manage as well as you can!