Please Blizzard stop premade from BG is not clean pvp but winner vs loser

Please Blizzard stop premade from BG is not clean pvp but winner vs loser. Need secondary queue for premade vs premade, premade vs pug is not good.

Possible solutions:

  1. Create a queue only for soloists (this means I can’t queue groups)
  2. Ban the 5-player version from 10 or 15 player BGs

Please no OT

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Then what happens if you get your wish and it’s pug vs pug? Then it’s loser vs loser.

It’s not nice to call all pugs losers, some of them are kinda alright

I’d be happy if they simply added a 5 minute debuff if you cancel or do not accept the queue. It’s not overbearing to hurt regular players, but it will annoy the sync cheaters because if they all don’t get in together, they will cancel and get the 5 min debuff. They try again in 5 min and the same thing happens.

Sure, eventually they’ll get in together, but that might be once ever 30+ minutes instead of anytime they want. It would slow down the sync cheaters but not completely stop them.

I think this is a fair compromise.

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The person who will do literally anything to win including cheating is the real loser not the people playing the game as it was intended to be played.

It’s like the night before a race the guy sabatoges the other guys tires.

Or eye poking in a fight groin shots etc.

Which is why all of these things are strictly prohibited in fighting or racing leagues cause without rules you only get to see humanity at its absolute worst and most selfish and depraved.

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Ah yes, the cheaters never really win argument.

Tell that to the majority of billionaires across the globe. I’m sure they are very miserable people for having cheated their way to fortunes.

Now, i’m not saying cheating will bring you happiness, but it can bring plenty of comforts including the psychological knowledge knowing you are beating the losers who don’t cheat.

But what really annoys me is the sync queue nonsense is the easiest thing to fix yet Blizzard doesn’t fix it. So they are technically allowing it but not coming out directly and saying they want it to exist. That’s what ultimately pisses me off. Just make it a feature so people know where the company stands.

And if you look into these figures they also happen to be the most depraved individuals on the planet. Perhaps only with the exception of Elon musk the rare person who ends up in his position through diligence instead of corruption.

I think many of them start with truly good intentions at first but once they get success they seem to abandon their beliefs probably due to either greed or a external force.

Which is pretty sad that we reward the absolute worst people but judgement comes for everyone in due time.

The smartest criminal is the one who does it legally.

Just do Blitz if you don’t want to see premades.

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Omega freaking lol

nerf premades

I was in two premades yesterday - I have to say it was nice being life gripped… and healed by competent healers. I’ve spent the last two weeks doing Blitz with little Joey the Honor Level 7 disc priest that stands in one spot, and only heals himself. So, I’ve loosened my stance on premades… somewhat.

Well, you certainly have the ego for it and treat casual pvp as if it were a high-stakes, prestigious event. I’m sure they would welcome you with open arms, lol.

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Casual PvP is the most popular/populated PvP in World of Warcraft, and it’s not even close. There’s difference types of PvP - and just because I don’t feel like bashing into a clone while waiting for dampening to kick in - doesn’t mean I shouldn’t have goals.

Arena Rating is meaningless - unless you’re one of the very few people competing in tournaments. If you’re not one of those people - there’s no proof you didn’t pay for Arena carries. My entire goal is to beat people 1v1, mock them with emotes, and make them feel bad about themselves. That is literally the only reason I play this game.

Honor Level is just a bonus.

Achievement points? Meaningless. Mounts? Meaningless.

But if those things are meaningful to one person - that’s what matters. I want top 10 world in Honor Level… I don’t want 2500 Arena rating. Deal with it.

Not sure if you are trolling me by using Elon as an example of a good guy. I guess you completely overlooked one of many recent examples of his depravity and narcissitic need for power. Look at what he attempted to do with OpenAI before leaving to start his own AI. He literally demanded the company make him CEO and move the entire company under his brand name so he could ultimately take credit for it. And why? Because he helped it with some funds during their start up years.

And now he is begging government to create all sorts of regulations to slow down AI progress so his company can catch up LOL. Of course he won’t come out and say that. He’ll make it look like slowing down the AI progress is best for humanity and he’s helping us. The guy is the Donald Trump of the tech industry. Everything he does is for himself, but he tries to make it sound like he’s helping the rest of us.

And your other comment about billionaires starting off with good intentions, I think that is also false. Many of them have strong ambitions to be the top dog with all the fame that comes with it and do whatever is needed to reach that status. But once they reach the top they try to make themselves look good by setting up all those charitable organizations, but even those turned out to be scams. Seriously, go do a quick google search on billionaire charity scams.

If they truly had good intentions, they would never become billionaires. They’d be pumping that money back into society as quick as they get it. They’d be happy with a hundred million dollars.

Yeah, the more competent, reliable players (healers, definitely) usually play with premades. They also have more min-max/sweaties who are max geared a few weeks into the new season which helps to roll over the pugs that much easier. Note you’ll pretty much never see these people queue solo, unless it’s during a time they won’t themselves get run over by premades.

For whatever reason (maybe there are technical limitations), Blizzard hasn’t made the deserter debuff account-wide.

These players won’t have to wait 5 minutes. They’ll swap toons and immediately re-sync queue.

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Yea, but does it really matter? They’ll get another debuff because most likely they all won’t get in the first few tries. And with everyone logging on all sorts of ats it will take more time to coordinate who has healers, tanks, certain damage classes etc…

I guess my point is it seems obvious Blizzard wants the sync queue nonsense in the game even if they don’t officially say they approve. Just more shorr term thinking from a big corp who doesn’t see the overall picture on how this will negatively effect the outlook players have over the game as the months roll. People who quit will remember crap like this and say “why bother” when thinking about possibly returning.

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We simply need to demand for blizzard to punish these people. Why are we just trying to make it harder instead of banning them?

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Honestly, I’ve hardly even seen the premades the last few weeks.

I’ve seen Ruthless once today… Torture twice yesterday.

I won all three games… so, it’s not really hurting anyone but low Honor level players.