Please fix Feral Blizzard. Its not good , damage is low, its weird to play, no utility, BT changes are just bad and class doesnt feel
Good to play.
Please everyone post what you think so that we can finally get blizzard to listen to us …
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I’m going to have to agree here. BT is just not fun. It doesn’t feel smooth. On top of that, it’s a constant having to look at the top right corner to see how many stacks of BT, and why BT does not have a graphic like Finger of Frost gets IDK? I much prefer the old BC rotation or something where I am managing DOTs and energy instead of DOTs, energy, BT stacks, the order of spells used, snapshotting DOTS, managing Bersk all for the bottom of the barrel DPS. Feral is one of the most complicated specs with the lowest damage in the game.
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Download weakauras like every other player in the game. Loads of classes have buffs to track that do not have unique graphics.
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Ah yes, one of those people that just want to be obtuse. This is 2020, not 2010, I can think of at least four specs off the top of my head, three of which blizz used the exact same graphic for their buffs that they could have used for blood talons. You shouldn’t need to use a third party add-on for something they could have used, that already exist for other specs.
On top of that these other specs have a much more straightforward gameplay than feral does.
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Really agree…
I want energy recharge buff but they are no listen.
i want playing feral is so “interest” but this is boring.
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Asking for nonsense things like “energy recharge buff” for feral while not even at max level is the reason why you are all suffering with the new brainlet BT change.
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You pointed out a problem.
A solution was given.
If you refuse to use the solution, then you forfeit your right to complain.
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I wonder how these people track their snapshot bleeds, their predatory swiftness, their TF timer, their savage roar timer etc.
Default UI/no addons is just asking to handicap yourself.
I 100% agree, but let’s not pretend that’s a good thing, or even that it’s fine.
The default UI should have satisfactory options for clearly displaying your own debuffs on enemy nameplates.
And there should be an audio/visual queue for when BT procs. I use a weak aura for it but I really shouldn’t have to.
Relying on volunteer enthusiasts to design ui features for properly playing a spec just reinforces my belief that that the devs don’t have anyone that plays it.
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Sure but that’s not a Feral exclusive issue. Yes the reality is the default UI sucks, complaining about having to look in the top right of their screen to check buff is not BT specific. There’s countless things you need to track as Feral, so I find it interesting someone would isolate BT.
WA is a simple and easy to use solution, that let’s be real, is far more customizable than anything Blizzard would introduce.
I think that’s the problem right there. BT is just one more thing to track in a spec that doesn’t offer a numerical reward for technically challenging gameplay. I don’t think you’d see the same level of complaint if we could point to some big-brain feral that was playing the spec perfectly and absolutely crushing the meters, on par with or exceeding the top parses from the simpler classes.
But we can’t. So all of this complexity and nuance is its own reward? Eh, no thanks.
Assertion: Correctly playing a complex, technically challenging spec should result in top-tier damage. Prove me wrong.
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Nobody uses savage roar, BT charges are always the same amount of stacks and you know for a fact which spells consume it, and when you are triggering the combo because of your very own actions.
Snapshot bleeds is a joke, by being aware of the above you can know what snapshots you are applying, I really don’t understand this is all pretty damn easy, it’s not MoP snapshots anymore, everything is obvious and 100% if you do every finisher as 5cp.
At most you get a TF duration weakaura to gauge if you can squeeze an extra finisher or hard hitting abilities, most if not all specs don’t have any default spell indicators that are worth a damn, most of the things they track are extremely obvious basic stuff.
Feral is extremely easy in PvE, I have no clue about pvp, again it’s not MoP anymore, I don’t understand why people complain about the UI, there is much more important things to complain about right now.
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Genuine curiosity here. When you say it’s easy, are you comparing to another more difficult rotation currently in WoW either live or in the beta?
Your condescending tone isn’t needed. Honest and proven Mythic raiders like Nubkeks put Feral in the hard category. So I just can’t take you seriously.
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What is your definition of no utility? In what setting are you referring to?
Feral has a ridiculous amount of utility for all content outside of raiding.
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Feral has good self utility.
It’s a lack of unique group utility thats hurts.
Along with the severe lack of damage output, it’s enough to make feral totally undesirable for pve groups.
I was really holding out and hoping for some actual tuning to take place.
And no I dont mean to reference pre-patch damage.
At end game feral is laughable compared to other specs and classes.
The overall tuning across all classes and specs is laughable right now.
You have specs doing 40% of the damage of other specs in some cases.
Hopefully they remove head from hole and get the balance under control before launch, but ya gotta remember who we’re talking about here.
Why would they break the cycle of making feral start as garbage for yet another expansion?
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@msyltek
Tracking things and managing snapshots isn’t difficult for me, but we’re talking to more casual players who don’t have the same raid experience as us, in which case addons do help with Feral gameplay a lot. That being said, I still personally wouldn’t run default anything in terms of bleed/aura tracking, or even nameplates - addons/WA just make things so much easier.
I found Feral in BFA to be a bit of a joke too, with SOTF+Saber. SR/LI may see play in SL though, in which case I would very much recommend to others to ensure they have a UI that suits their needs. Playing without WA’s is handicapping oneself.
Indeed complaining about needing addons is silly, and such a factor definitely shouldn’t influence spec design etc.
Feral on the Beta is night and day compared to Feral on Pre-Patch. Pre-Patch Feral has the lowest dps of any spec, while Beta Feral is solidly in the middle of the pack. No utility? We have Battle Res, Cyclone - which in itself is a solid tool for shutting down specific casters in M+ - Not to mention a raid saving tool that can also be used to ignore mechanics that would otherwise make being melee hell.
Blood Talons really isn’t that much different. Honestly.
I’m seeing all kinds of “Feral is the lowest damage in the game but the hardest spec” posts. You’re talking about level 50 at the end of an expansion, NOT level 60 in a new expansion. Beta players know this. Feral is far from lowest dps.
Currently, as of about 7 minutes ago, the lowest dps specs are:
Frost DK
Assassination Rogue
Enhancement Shaman
Fire Mage
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Both pre-patch and beta, it’s all incredibly easy, dps all specs are right now.
No clue who that is and goggle barely turns any results all looking like clickbait, so ok, you’re the one refusing to use weakauras, if you need additional help from addons then you are gonna need it on all other specs, if you really think feral is one of the few unplayable specs because it has no default UI auras then you are probably playing those other specs wrong too.
If you can’t keep track of something as feral with just the default UI then you are gonna have issues with every other spec and might as well install an addon, the specs that do have pretty lights that flash up when you need to press something are incredibly basic and borderline worthless.
Feral having no default UI auras is definitely not any issue worth complaining about right now.
I just miss the control of the old BT. Feral was all about planning and patience. This BT just feels like a check in the box rather than being rewarded for managing it well.
Also there’s not enough time anymore in the rake stun to guarantee a BT snapshotted rip. If you have a bit of lag or open on anyone with stun reduction, you risk getting counter-stunned and losing your opener. Feels pretty bad