Please add naxx hard mode - game is boring

At least half the folks on our raid team are complaining about the current state of WotLK. Inherently, the expansion is very fun, but we complete all the 25-man raid content in one raid night. That leaves us with 6 days of nothing to do.

For more context, almost our entire main raid team sees no point of running 10 mans because the gear is equivalent to heroic dungeon gear. We cannot get them to sign up for 10 man raids on their mains.

Since many of us are bored, we have made alts. Some of us have several 80 alts now. So it looks like we will just play alts for the rest of p1?

The problem is, vanilla and tbc 18 years ago was ahead of it’s time. We were given the opportunity to play through it again, and many of us have beat sunwell before prepatch. WOTLK 14 years ago was FOR it’s time. Right now, we have access to dps simulators, discord class channels, and wowhead, which expedites our character progress and gameplay. We did not have this many resources back in the day. So now that we ACTUALLY know how to play the game well, wotlk raid content is just… underwhelming.

It would be nice if we had a naxx hard mode that had similar damage/health scaling to that of vanilla.

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Actually classic values were nerfed considerably. Bosses had more health, armor, damage and resistances compared to classic.

But yeah, it’s gonna be like this every phase. 2-3 weeks of a challenge (lol) and then it’s back to raid logging. It’ll be the same for cata,mop etc

first week of naxx launch i pugged 25 man and we cleared it in one night. also - cata had the hardest raiding ever released (with the exception of naxx40/sunwell)… which is why people didn’t like cata; they couldn’t do the raids

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That was part of it, but there was also the horrendous talent revamp, a story line unrelatable to alot of people, and the world being transformed as well as LFR

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the talent revamp you’re referring to came way after dragonsoul was released, at prepatch. same thing for LFR. that doesn’t define the whole expansion

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Idk what you expect from WotLK. Even in Ulduar, when the raids are good, you will log on twice a week at most. One night for 25-man Ulduar and another night for your 10-man Ulduar.

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two nights of content would be nice

There are two nights’ worth now… people in your guild just don’t seem to want to do the same raid twice a week.

Same thing is going to happen in Ulduar. You’ll do 10 man for the first few weeks, then people stop showing up when they realize they’re just doing the same thing twice.

the rewards of 10 mans are almost irrelevant

Do it with less people and lesser gear. There’s your hard mode.

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ok paid actor. but how about some actual change so people don’t quit the game?

I was suggesting a challenge that I have actually done with some of my friends. There are people with a lot of skill who even try downing all the stuff they possibly can in white gear.

There is the level 1 to 60, zero damage taken challenge( a major step above the no deaths one), there is doing dungeons full white gear challenge.

There are also speed challenges as well. Lots of people do this stuff. It is nearly impossible to do a lot of these things but some people try. I really don’t think they are going to add any more difficulties to Classic.

I have tried all that stuff. Trying it doesnt mean I completed it. Just gave it a try. You can too I guess if you have lots of time. You wont get anything out of it other than wasted time. You can prove to your friends that you actually did that stuff which is cool. So it is just a side game to play as well as doing this.

Yeah, but it got nerfed pretty quickly. If they do Cata Classic, it’s not going to be the original hard raids. It’s going to be the nerfed down versions of the later patches, just like they always do with Classic.

Why? You chose the retail progression realm. You chose the status quo. You will continue to be rail-roaded through Cataclysm and into the Shadowlands.

Novel Classic+ content is waiting in Classic Era Phase 7. This could be the current content right now had your lack of foresight not gotten the better of you as you walked through that Dark Portal 2 years ago.

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Maly, Sarth, and KT all have relevant items on 10 man… there’s no chance your entire guild has reached the point where people don’t want those items, unless you’ve been running splits since week 1 or something.

Achievement and mount farm.

you know this guy is a troll because he has zero logs LMAO

welcome to raid logging. enjoy your stay. :expressionless:

Yea dont know what you mean by that one. Calling someone a troll when they are not is the typical response to someone who is losing an argument that they willingly got into.

You said 6 days of nothing to do. I said achievement and mount farm. That is not trolling at all. That is what a bunch of us actually do.

You’re the one flipping out cuz you cant handle the game. Not my fault you are upset. Really isnt. It’s actually yours.

You’re the one who is raging at the game and making illogical points and are getting upset because no one is agreeing with you on anything that you have said here.

And you’re the one who had ZERO posting history before you came here on that toon and had a rough start right off the bat with zero likes and the first poster already disagreeing with you.

Every post you have ever made on that toon have all been made within the last couple of hours

And when I said you are not speaking logic… here’s another example of that.

You act like none of us ever had alts in the first time we played this exact same game when it wasn’t classic.

Most of us posting here who were in Wrath had several 80s before Wrath ended, we had multiple alts, we had an AH alt for those of us who did AH farming, we had a bank alt that was sometimes the same toon as our AH alt, we had a scout toon, that would scout around and check things out for PvP in battlegrounds so that toon could afford to take the 15 minute debuff if the BG didnt look good for a premade. we had alts that would farm mounts, we had toons we would log out next to our toons were leveling in PvP servers to kill gankers.

So saying THIS is the time around where we were done wrong?

World of Warcraft hasnt even been out for 20 years… so how could the second expac have come out 20 years ago if WoW didnt even exist 20 yeas ago? We are on our 18th anniversary right now in retail WoW.

Wrath didnt even exist 15 years ago. TBC was still just being announced 15 years ago.

You are nowhere near BiS on that toon. So I think overwhelming is the word you are looking for.

yes. you CHOSE this. never forget :expressionless: