11/01/2018 10:26 AMPosted by
Erelir
What about twinking is more fun to you than PvP at 120, around which classes/gear/etc. are balanced?
My stance on twinking is what it is but I’m not here to put anyone down. My question is sincere, not a challenge.
For me, it's because most of my friends play twinks, they introduced me to another aspect of the game, one which is fun and one where i'm someone in the community where i can log on que a couple of games against other friends or rivals.
I personally don't enjoy 120 pvp, and some of my friends at 120 don't either. Most of my squad who played max have left the game due to their own personal issues with it. It isn't even pvp at 120 for me, i log onto my 120 hunter, run around old dalaran for 20 minutes thinking of something to do, then log off because i can't stand bfa and i end up either hunting achievments/toys/mounts or hopping on a twink to play some games...or playing league.
Edit: I've been looking to get into the 39 bracket but unfortunately i'm not sure what i want to roll down there quite yet so
Edit: I've been looking to get into the 39 bracket but unfortunately i'm not sure what i want to roll down there quite yet so
If it helps, the following list is as accurate as you could get in terms of a tier list for the bracket.
I would argue against creating a *Godmode* tier class, as the bracket is starting to get saturated with them (I get it, everyone wants to play the "strong" classes, but T2 is certainly capable and T3 can be fun in the hands of someone that can play the class well).
https://xpoff.com/threads/39-class-tier-list.80551/
TIER 1 (GODMODE)
Fury Warrior
Discipline Priest
TIER 2 (VERY GOOD)
Arcane Mage
Marksmanship/Survival Hunter
Balance/Restoration Druid
Restoration Shaman
Outlaw Rogue
Retribution Paladin
TIER 3 (Competitive in the hands of an experienced & geared player)
Beastmaster Hunter
Feral Druid
Shadow/Holy Priest
Elemental/Enhancement Shaman
Windwalker/Mistweaver Monk
Fire/Frost Mage
Affliction/Destruction/Demonology Warlock
Arms Warrior
Holy Paladin
Subtlety/Assassin Rogue
TIER 4 (Why Bother?)
Protection Warrior
Protection Paladin
Guardian Druid
Brewmaster Monk
11/01/2018 10:26 AMPosted by
Erelir
What about twinking is more fun to you than PvP at 120
Within one day/night of playing, you will start to recognize teammates/oppositions
names/characters.
Friendships and rivalries will be built.
It truly reminds me of older days in WOW when we were more likely to recognize
players/names/characters in the old Battlegroups.
11/01/2018 10:26 AMPosted by
Erelir
What about twinking is more fun to you than PvP at 120
Within one day/night of playing, you will start to recognize teammates/oppositions
names/characters.
Friendships and rivalries will be built.
It truly reminds me of older days in WOW when we were more likely to recognize
players/names/characters in the old Battlegroups.
That somehow never occurred to me. Makes sense.
The fun of playing classic without the burden of decade+ old animations, models, outdated systems, etc.
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119 twink is my fave so far :D
11/01/2018 10:26 AMPosted by
Erelir
What about twinking is more fun to you than PvP at 120, around which classes/gear/etc. are balanced?
My stance on twinking is what it is but I’m not here to put anyone down. My question is sincere, not a challenge.
Personally I enjoyed twinks more when brackets were seperate, but I do still have some fun playing them.
Like others said, community is definitely a big reason. It's a lot of fun recognizing people in BGs, and getting to know people you play with and against. You learn habits, figure out who to watch for, and get to make fun of people who AFK all the time.
I also enjoy the gearing a lot more. You can actually plan out gear sets, looking through available options and deciding what to farm based on that. Professions can contribute more to your character's strength, too.
I've never been a big fan of the endgame gear treadmill, I like the fact that any gear I farm will always be relevant to my character, even if BiS changes with time.
Class balance is hit or miss anyways. There will be stronger specs at any level. Things will always be less balanced at lower levels, but that's alright within a certain range. I didn't enjoy low levels because of SV hunters in Legion, but nothing feels that bad right now in lower brackets. 49s have a couple super broken items that push things into much less fun territory for me though.
Extra abilities are nice, but they don't always make the game more fun on the whole. I don't mind not having DHs and DKs. BG maps weren't designed for double jump, and I don't find death grip particularly fun in unorganized PvP. Overall, the lack of major cooldowns emphasizes positioning and team play.
For gear balance, I wouldn't mind the current scaling system working throughout the game. I was a fan of the concept of templates, but the lack of character customization was awful. Lower brackets don't have a huuuge power gap right now at least. You can gear up well enough to compete pretty quickly and cheaply, and more people seem to be catching on to that.
Any of you guys migrating to classic when the time comes?
11/01/2018 11:02 AMPosted by
Myninja
Edit: I've been looking to get into the 39 bracket but unfortunately i'm not sure what i want to roll down there quite yet so
If it helps, the following list is as accurate as you could get in terms of a tier list for the bracket.
I would argue against creating a *Godmode* tier class, as the bracket is starting to get saturated with them (I get it, everyone wants to play the "strong" classes, but T2 is certainly capable and T3 can be fun in the hands of someone that can play the class well).
https://xpoff.com/threads/39-class-tier-list.80551/
TIER 1 (GODMODE)
Fury Warrior
Discipline Priest
TIER 2 (VERY GOOD)
Arcane Mage
Marksmanship/Survival Hunter
Balance/Restoration Druid
Restoration Shaman
Outlaw Rogue
Retribution Paladin
TIER 3 (Competitive in the hands of an experienced & geared player)
Beastmaster Hunter
Feral Druid
Shadow/Holy Priest
Elemental/Enhancement Shaman
Windwalker/Mistweaver Monk
Fire/Frost Mage
Affliction/Destruction/Demonology Warlock
Arms Warrior
Holy Paladin
Subtlety/Assassin Rogue
TIER 4 (Why Bother?)
Protection Warrior
Protection Paladin
Guardian Druid
Brewmaster Monk
I appreciate the list! nah i wouldn't make a disc or fury warrior..but i do have a question if there's a specific class or spec that can counter either or both? if not then i'll most likely either play mage (i love fire) or a hunter as i main survival at max
10/31/2018 09:37 PMPosted by
Mustard
10/31/2018 09:34 PMPosted by
Èddie
ele is fun as heckle
what kind of earth shocks do you get? just curious I have been hit by some pretty huge ones at 39.
oh sorry just saw this. My highest crit on this character I think is somewhere in the 1.2-1.4k range
I appreciate the list! nah i wouldn't make a disc or fury warrior..but i do have a question if there's a specific class or spec that can counter either or both? if not then i'll most likely either play mage (i love fire) or a hunter as i main survival at max
Honestly depends on bracket. Mage can be a good counter with a healer vs warrior/disc 2 mans w/ poly/frost nova/etc. If you're in the 49/59 bracket it'll be a lot harder to counter ramsteins/sulth but a good sham/mage/boomkin can beat a fury warrior 9/10 times if they properly use their ccs. And most healers can 1v1 a warrior Twink too. To counter disc, its a little harder (depends on bracket tho). Much easier in brackets where u get a purge ability. But any class that can interrupt and put out big burst is great. Boomkin, arc mage, rogue, warrior etc.
11/01/2018 10:26 AMPosted by
Erelir
What about twinking is more fun to you than PvP at 120, around which classes/gear/etc. are balanced?
My stance on twinking is what it is but I’m not here to put anyone down. My question is sincere, not a challenge.
- You only have to gear up once.
- Tight-knit community
- Random Bg's are often very competitive.
I've been playing twinks since TBC, and this is the healthiest I have seen the 39 bracket since Wrath. The gap between player HP pools is also nowhere near as bad as it used to be, with itemization being more effective across the board at low levels.
Being a 110 twink is fun, hearing a full geared 120 complain about losing is funny (;.
Yeah i think i'll do a mage in that case at 39, because i can play fire for fun and arcane if i need it, now i just need to find a mage to copy gear XD
Not gonna lie fire op as a 110 twink, 1.2sec cast on greater pyro lolrekt.
Not gonna lie fire op as a 110 twink, 1.2sec cast on greater pyro lolrekt.
Wtf you're joking
Lol actually serious, my haste with traits is so good.
Time to dust off ol' spellweaver then and give it a shot
11/01/2018 10:26 AMPosted by
Erelir
What about twinking is more fun to you than PvP at 120, around which classes/gear/etc. are balanced?
My stance on twinking is what it is but I’m not here to put anyone down. My question is sincere, not a challenge.
My 120 hunter has half the health of the geared hunters. Not fun.
I just got world quests unlocked, but it's pretty slow going so far. We'll see how long it takes to get geared, but at this rate, my expectations are that I will be the low guy for a long time. Even if I manage to get some decent gear through world quests and maybe a handful of dungeons, I don't expect that I will ever catch up to the people who do the real PvE content.
After I get bored of doing world quests, I hop onto my 119 priest or my 119 lock and have a blast playing bg after bg, and I have only put minimal effort into my gear (auction housed, no enchants). At this point, I'm not sure I need to do anything else.
I was a big fan of templates because I just like to hop on and play some bgs, cycling through my alts at will. Templates allowed me to do that.
But with my 120 hunter, I can see that it's going to be a never ending gear grind that I will never win against the PvE'ers. Why be a punching bag? Why do all that PvE that I don't like?
I have always leveled up all my alts to max in the past, but at this point, I do not see myself maxing any of my other alts.
My 120 hunter is my cave canary at this point. If I can gear him up with gear from WQs and BGs to the point where I don't feel like a punching bag, and do it in a reasonable amount of time, then maybe I will max out another alt.
If it weren't for noxp, I'd probably become disenchanted with bgs at 120 and quit. Props to Bliz for creating a game with many different ways to play though. I re-upped for 6months. :)
11/02/2018 08:30 AMPosted by
Xeoch
But with my 120 hunter, I can see that it's going to be a never ending gear grind that I will never win against the PvE'ers. Why be a punching bag? Why do all that PvE that I don't like?
You can just log in and do BGs. I was fresh 120 just two weeks ago and helped my team out plenty (no pve needed!) There isn't as big a gear disparity as the health pool makes it seem.
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Yeah you wouldn't know it from looking at the surface numbers, but the new system is basically legion templates with secondary stat and trait customization. The biggest downside to being undergeared at 120 is listening to ignorant teammates complain about you.
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Since Asmondgold started a twink guild on MG mainly aimed at 39s (but it has players in other brackets) I believe there is and will be an activity uptick for a few months.