Playing retail is exhausting

Are you even reading what is being posted or are you just copy/pasting the same reply to troll?

Im going with the latter.

Tbh its a spell priority. Granted its a bit of a higher skill cap, but its nothing compared to arcane lol.

And its also funny the skill cap of aug vs how insanely easy dev is.

Enhance has even more buttons than Elemental (and is harder to play too in general) and doesn’t suffer from unpopularity.

I did, and it’s just you trying to make excuses because you cannot own up to it.

i have 32 keys bound that are mandatory to play right which is just, well insane tbh. i would’nt mind if it was cut down to something around 25-28. frankly, after 30 binds, my mind just explodes. but i am an old person and i wasn’t born with an iphone in my hand so maybe it’s just me.

That’s all you have been doing. Quite poorly actually. You can’t even respond to my points about tutorials, accessibility, and ease of use of the game in its current state to even just a few years ago.

It’s also sad you put all the blame on the game and devs and zero on the players own accountability.

It’s astonishing as well that you can’t comprehend the difference between min/maxing classes and specs either. As well as define spec nuance.

Look at pretty much all of DF. They are listening. Your head is clearly in the sand. Thus why I said you are just parroting whatever streamer you are watching.

What are these mandatory buttons exactly?
Most classes have upwards of 10 to 12 ‘mandatory’ buttons. The rest are either optional talents, situational cc’s, defensives, cds, and utility.

My bm hunter is a great example of this. 30+ buttons. 8 or so are ‘mandatory’, the rest are cds and utility. Primarily being situational.

Bm hunter is like the worst example to use

Name 1 class that has 30 mandatory buttons.
That was the point.
Bm is actually a great example because of how many utility buttons you have.

So then you have to define ‘what is mandatory’.

Rogue.

Done.

The devs need a complete redesign of the classes, and the content that the classes are being designed for.

Classes right now feel very homogenized, mainly due to M+ requiring all the specs to have similar utility and throughput.

All aspects of the game are suffering from the game being designed around 5 man end game content. You will never have interesting class design as long as you have competitive content like M+.

I put the button bloat issue solely on this content. The devs fixed this issue in WoD and Legion to an extent, but with rise of M+ being the prefered end game for so many players, the devs had to continue to add more and more utility, CC, self-healing and other skills to every spec.

What we have now is a boring esport game that doesn’t have any cool class identity anymore.

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I find myself not taking skills in the talents section because I don’t have enough keybinds for them… That to me indicates button bloat. Fury Warrior is the only spec I play that leaves me with empty keybinds when I take all the talented skills “required” to play the spec.

FistWeave Monk I dropped 3 talented skills because I don’t have binds for them.

I use number buttons 1 through 6 with no Shift modifier. I use QWER and ASDF and 5 mouse buttons all with Shift modifiers so that’s a total of 32 button binds and I can’t fit all my abilities for most classes…

Thats ridiculous and yes, its exhausting to play finger yoga. I only PvP and need to hammer skills on demand and fast or I’m likely corpsed.

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Cool now list out the buttons you think are mandatory.

Watch how fast that list shrinks and then you realize majority are cds/ccs/utility.

Now you’re a lazy one, aren’t you?

What does that even mean?

You said rogue has 30+ mandatory buttons so im asking you to list what YOU think is mandatory.

You can’t make baseless claims then tangent/backpeddle when you get asked for examples.

You know what I mean.

You’re just arguing for the sake of it at this point. This conversation ended long ago, as you’ve consistently proven me right.

You simply cannot fathom what it’s like to be new to WoW. Your dismissal of Addons with 100s of thousands to millions of downloads is proof of this.

I asked him what he thinks is bloat with Arcane post-RoP removal and didn’t even get an ability name. I don’t think they know the classes.

I don’t know most classes either. But I’m not lookin to make vague generalizations.

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You also can’t differentiate between min/maxing and intro builds nor do you recognize all the info readily available IN GAME.

And you also said you are a solo player, you don’t run keys or raid. You have no clue what you are talking about. You use buzzwords and when someone gives you legitimate reasons and examples, you get defensive and try to invalidate what they are saying.

You literally made a claim and refuse to back it up. Nice tangent by the way. This is exactly what I am talking about.

Your only point is you have no point and veterans are mean and addons are bad.

There’s a few meaasures of difference between 90% Cognitive Load and 0%

Just as a suggestion

He clearly has no idea what he is talking about.
Thats why he cant give any kind of examples and tangents when you call him out lol.
Its sad. Very misplaced anger.

Even if you don’t know, it takes 5 minutes to read over a basic guide to get a general understanding or simply reading abilities in game.
And most players are more than happy to help when they aren’t met with attitude :slight_smile:

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