Playing Horde is easy mode

well thats just gatekeeping. certain aspects he’s right about, if you can’t make friends that is a you problem, not a wow problem. wow is the bar, everyone is here, its up to you if you want to sit in a corner alone or talk to someone and make a friend.

experience doesn’t matter all that much other than seeing strats and counters, some people are just better at learning and analyzing than you are and can draw proper conclusions about a situation with way less experience than you.

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i can neither confirm nor deny my status as Mukaka

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I’m gonna go with Dookieboi over Mukaka

Suuuuuure.
Quick, how do you spell Mukaka?

The problem (for me, at least) is that the friends I had have all unsubbed or rerolled horde, leaving three empty guilds. Nice that I have access to all the loot, but not the same.

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start with an M?

MAKARANA, I KNEW IT WAS YOU! Wait…

most of my long time friends have all quit as well, starting in MoP, then most in WoD, and the last few in legion. my original guild is all dead as well. i have friends on my list that have been offline so long there is no last online status.

i made new friends and found a new guild.

Just from an anecdotal perspective, prior to Legion and the disaster of pvp that was, I had about a 60% win percentage. Nothing special but the typical rate has been 50% as that is usually healthy.

From horde, when you qued in Legion, you ALWAYS got IOC because apparently that is all Alliance wanted to que. ALWAYS. And it was loss after loss after loss because everyone wants to get workshop. Personal problem? Nope. It was a problem of what bg was popping and a disorganized team that friends and a discord won’t cure. The only way to get around it was blacklisting and having to accept another bad one you may want to avoid. But your que times increased.

Now, we have no blacklisting so if you want randoms, you’re getting sucked into whatever the system chooses to put you in. And it seems to be the bg’s that have helped the crybabies on Alliance win and stay Alliance since there is such an imbalance. Add on top of it the problem of lacking healers. And on top of that, being grouped with fresh alts that are just target dummies at that point. Can you grab 4 friends and try to carry em? Yes but good luck in anything more than a 10 v 10. And if you’re going to suggest it, make sure you aren’t being one of those that is being carried.

I tried that (THREE TIMES), losing them over the years.

Icaanul, horde own BGs, epic BGs even more so. Even Juga admits it.

That is another anecdotal perspective that isn’t really proof of anything. It highlights my point. Some see it 2 different ways and why? BECAUSE OF MATCHMAKING.

I just spent the last 2 days grinding bg’s trying to get ONE win to get just 17 cp to fill the bar. You want to know how I filled it? I merc’d Alliance and got a bg I haven’t had pop in months(AB). Something is off and it isn’t whether you’re taking friends.

so the one time pvp was fair, balanced, and purely skill based you think it was a disaster?

a few people can even make a difference in 40 mans, often the difference in securing a win is just a matter of looking at the map and plugging holes in your team’s strat, it doesn’t take a lot of players to do that. i’ve got my lols and facepalms ready if you are going to suggest im being carried.

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Oh, I agree, matchmaking is insane (just as it is half the time in Overwatch).
They need to work on the algorhythm, that’s for sure.

As far as anecdotal, the only source we had (wow-stats) went down in, what January? And at the time it was 58% horde overall in BGs.

its a continuous never ending process. friends come and go, its very rare that you have friends for a long time and you are lucky if you do.

yep, i’ll admit this as well. atm the only times i really see ally do well in epics is when horde completely drops the ball or ally has a premade.

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Agreed, but after awhile, both scenarios mentioned are more frustrating than enjoyable.

LMAO. Fair? Balanced? and purely skill? Yeah, let me see you play a Sub rogue for the first 6 months of Legion where the top stat they gave you was haste(the worst stat for your spec). Then the rest of it as Outlaw where they ran it into the ground. Arms? Forget it in bg’s.

It was a disaster on multiple levels. From season 1 to season 2 it had the largest drop off of arena participation EVER. This was calculated after they released the titles for season 2. Templates and class design were the main complaints. There’s a good reason they removed the templates.

Think about this. If some players are saying they win ALL of the time, and the numbers are 58% Horde, then there are some players getting the short end of the stick. And the system seems to be screwed in order for them to reach their preferred 50% mark.

not gonna lie, it gets more frustrating and more difficult the older you get, people get more picky about friends and as you get older there are fewer of your peer group around or still alive. just gotta keep at it.

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I had a good chuckle last night when we entered mines and our only healer had 99k hp. Even the MW had a laugh and said, “RIP me.” But yeah, would a system that keeps players better separated in terms of their gear be a bad thing? I’d like it if I could convince my wife to come back and we magically fix that problem somehow but I don’t think that’s likely in either case.

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You base this statement on…what, exactly?

i played unholy the whole expac even when it was laughable by most people, my stats where hardly ideal. it didn’t matter. the skill comes in reacting to your opponent properly and outplaying them, not outmathing them with better gear or better stats. think of it like playing chess, some people can play on fair ground, others want to stack their deck with all queens.

a lot of people need gear to carry them, even now people are using PVE proc stuff in arena. templates were removed because the “gear should matter” crowd screamed louder than the “skill should matter” crowd.

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