Yeah FFXIV has both and it seems like a good system. Your FC can have a building where you can get a cheap apartment and you can own a personal house on your own too. So being in a guild makes getting a basic home easy, without it being the only way of owning a house (well, ok, it was the only way of owning a house for me since I never got rich enough to buy my own home in that game)
When I tried FFXIV it had the worst system of obtaining a player home I have ever experienced. I would never recommend that as a system Blizzard should try and emulate.
I am all for guild houses along side personal player homes… just not the way FFXIV handles it.
Edit: Wildstar housing, still the goat. Someone please give me a blank open canvas that is limited only by my imagination!
Welp, 10.2.6 has no housing. It’s a “limited time event.”
I cannot express how much I want player housing. Even if it were set up so only I could be in it ( like the farm plot from MoP ), being able to decorate my character’s house would be SO rad.
Let me have a nice house for my character so I can build/craft things for it and decorate it.
Player housing should take a mobile form, and hear me out.
I’ve made posts about it before, but wagon trains, naval vessels and even air-ships makes a lot more sense than white-picket fences for Azeroth’s Champions, but I’d also love to see apartments or something similar available for general players, and small settlements available for Guilds, where each player in the guild can get their own small house around the primary Guild Hall.
But back to the first part. Mobile ‘bases’, such as a wagon train, ship or zepplin, makes more sense because suddenly Blizzard doesn’t have to -pull new races out of their nethers to explain why we have villages and towns and quest hubs in this heretofore unknown land. We are the questing hub, it comes with us, and as we progress across the zones, the quests offered by these mobile bases changes and develops depending upon our choices and where we are in the zone quest-lines.
I thought BFA would give us guild vessels at least. With a phased ship (like the garrisons) at the dock on every landmass, you would always see your own ship and run onto it.
The steering wheel would allow you transport to the other landmasses, like in BFA. LIke flight paths, you would have sail paths to all friendly and neutral harbors.
I’d also add an option for “travel the seas” which would place your ship in the middle of the ocean, sailing like during the opening moments of the Exile’s Reach scenario, for those of us who enjoy travel RP.
And of course there would be racial themed ships, with decoration and customization options available to unlock.
I would FLIP for a personal pirate ship that I could customize that I could “travel the seas” and be in some scenario or what not that just had me and my friends on the ship, with different kinds of weather.
HOLY you have no idea.
All the way to the other side of Azeroth that we don’t know anything about.
Azeroth is flat. Everyone knows that.
Hanging on the back of the Naglfar in the Maw dungeon is a vibe.
I have no idea if this is a real or fake thing
look ma im on tv, though im not sure what my silly lil zone thread has to do with it.
but now that im pinged, yeah uh, no. player housing is never gonna happen the way people want it to. if it was going to happen, it wouldve already happened. mmos rarely ever add in something as massive as housing, which in itself is its own progression system and realm of content, as a new feature in a new expansion.
20 years is a long time. 20 years of watching other mmos and other social games put in many kinds of player housing, which is anything from customizing a ship in Warframe or building Isengard in Minecraft. i think blizzard wouldve done something by now if there was any way we were getting a housing system.
me, personally? i’m probably the oddest duck out in that i dont really want one, either? unless its just guaranteed you get a house, im not about to sit in line and try to outbid the sweatlords that dwell within wow’s hallowed halls. and even then, i dont have the patience for crafting furniture, obtaining new decorations, or decorating these things myself. it usually takes a lot of fiddling to find the right pieces and to build the right look, and listen, it’s honestly more fun to do with a real house LOL.
i would rather they focus dev time on other things, at the end of the day. better cities, better zones, better pizza, papa john’s???
Sint got a makeover! That’s a new look for sure!
In regards to the housing, remember that from about late-BC to mid-Wrath, a lot of the old guard who enjoyed putting in ‘Cool Stuff’ were getting shuffled out for the Cosby Crew that would eventually give us story-beats like the Burning of Teldrassil and The Shadowlands, while pushing for E-Sports, ignoring rampant abuses of power and actively avoiding the game so they could spend all day playing CoD in their offices, giving their staff demands but no oversight or leadership worth a damn.
If this really is a return to the old story methods of WoW, then we’re likely to see a return to ‘Cool Things’ being the norm and E-Sports being put on the back-burner for a looooooong time. Player Housing, implemented as a potential private or semi-private quest-hub, and a late-game time-sink for players to fool around in while the Devs are hammering together the next patch or expansion, would work. Trying to tie it to a single expansion, like WoD did with Garrisons, and forcing players to have to spend a huge amount of time in an isolated or phased area where they couldn’t interact with other players outside of custom channels was a gigantic mis-step on Blizzard’s behalf, and rather than own up to trying to MacGuffinite Player Housing into End-Game content, they blamed the players for being ‘ungrateful’ and tried to bury the concept so people would stop complaining/asking about when they’d get real Player Housing.
According to Taliesin, Ion told him they were working on it. Whether that means it will ever get implemented is another story.
It was in the beta, Epsilon exists, and they want this IP to keep on going for ages, so who knows.
IMHO, one of the biggest dilemmas Blizz faces in regard to player housing at this point is the expectation levels and potential disappointment.
As much as I hammer away about how much I want it, I am also acutely aware that it’s entirely possible they could implement it and…it’s nothing like what I want and after all these years, I simply end up disappointed.
They have to be scared half to death about implementing it and having it be such a colossal failure that it scars this game irreversibly. I can certainly understand their hesitation and IF they are working on it, the absolute need to be certain of what they are doing and possibly putting into the universe.
That is why it should have been placed in the game years ago. Instead of 20 years building up to something that could just flat out SUCK, it would have been in the game and they could have spent 20 years tweaking it.
This 100% in a nutshell. We wanted housing when we got garrisons and it wasn’t remotely close to what we expected. Seriously though, I don’t think Blizz has it in them to implement a decent housing system. They have the assets, but I don’t think they want to actually waste the manpower on it because OMG raid tier.
I didn’t particularly like the smack in the face that they tossed out about garrisons costing a raid tier. I thought it was rude on the dev’s part to put that name into the garrison graveyard. I don’t want devs to guilt the player base that if they get one thing, it’s taking away from another.
I hope new design approaches and a corporate culture that’s at least shifted a bit leads to better implementation of stuff, and includes housing.
Some of their stuff just feels overdone to the point that it regressed and was actually underdone. How they did WoW Communities is an example. They probably had great plans but then had to overdesign it around limitations of how chat works in WoW, which shaved off stuff that would have been actually useful.
They should have totally revamped chat, and they still should.
Thankfully, we have cross-realm guilds coming, so that will fix some of the issues guilds have trying to use the communities feature for connectivity.
Now give us a place to call home.
I’d love it if they did it loose/basic and built it up based on player feedback. Progressively adding to loot tables – bosses dropping “hangable” variants of their weapons, all that.
Fingers crossed. We’ve seen it work out on private servers. Hope to see it come soon!
I do think that all in all, it’s becoming a bit more apparent that WoW is OK with money sinking (gold token, $30 mogs, etc)
And frankly, why wouldn’t they implement player housing as a money sink? I know that I am simply one of many who would definitely purchase a house from the shop if I wanted it enough.
SWTOR does player housing amazing, if something similar could be implemented it’d be perfect for wow.