As much as I love this game through all its ups and downs, I was just making some stuff for guildies and got an Achv for making 100 items with Blacksmithing.
Although that’s kinda dumb, since there’s an Achv to fulfill 1000 crafting orders and I’ve done like 700 … I OBVIOUSLY have made more than 100 items with Blacksmithing. But w/e … I can ignore that because I just proved: as an active Blacksmith, you don’t really have to DO anything outside of the ordinary to get that Achv. You just “make stuff.”
But there is an Achv to “Craft the Sulfuron Hammer.”
I ALREADY DID THAT. Why do I have to do this again??? This is NOT the same thing as just “making stuff.” You don’t just “randomly” craft the Sulfuron Hammer.
And I saw on Wowhead, people have submitted tickets, assuming it HAS to be a bug. NOPE!!! A CSR responded: it’s not a bug, you have to craft it AGAIN to get credit.
This is NONSENSE.
If you can’t provide content, don’t disguise it as “uhmmmm just do this AGAIN.”
THIS IS BU… NONSENSE!!!
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If you want to take a defensible position, maybe call it a slap in the face, and demand that the achievement be taken out. At least that can actually be done, despite the fact they can’t infer from your inventory that you have built the Sulfuron Hammer.
It’s obvious why and it’s obviously such an annoying limitation the question should not be ‘why can’t the achievement figure out if I built it?’ … but instead should be 'why does your game team think this insulting achievement shouldn’t just be omitted, like it has been for the past few years?"
But, hey, I’ve got 20k achieves. While we might share something, you’re sitting there at 38k (congratulations, btw!) - and I can totally emphasize with how frustrating this would be. But, frankly, it’s annoying at any level, not just for someone at 38K that wants to reconstruct their past accurately.
It is bull nonsense. It asks questions that don’t need asking and digs up bodies best left buried.
At least Sulfuron Hammer is interesting. But did you make a crafting hammer or more mundane item? Who cares?
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taps chin …
hmmm…
I guess the main issue is that I ASSUMED (I’ll admit my fault here) that the Hammer was BoP. I gathered all the mats, I’M a BS and I made it … I guess all this time it just seemed like a “gift to Blacksmiths.”
It never occurred to me that it was BoE and you’d go to all that trouble just to sell it. I still think of it as an item that you struggled and put all your effort into just making it ONCE!!! The idea of just casually 1-shotting everything in MC and collecting the mats while you watch re-runs … doesn’t occur to me.
So if the Achv is to CRAFT it … then… I have to admit you’re right. If the item is BoE (I didn’t actually realize that), then there’s no way to PROVE you made it.
And I think that’s a point you touched on (sorry, busy at work, skim reading): if that’s the case, don’t make it an Achv in the first place. Do something else that doesn’t require so much effort for that that DID already do it.
You’ve calmed me down some (but for having to admit I was wrong lol). But it still just … doesn’t feel right.
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I just can’t imagine doing this many crafting orders. I’ve done like 3.
I pushed HARD and was able to 5* the most common items at an early (earlier) point. So that’s where most of mine have come from.
But the reality for most people is that you’re going to have to get on an alt, and submit crafting orders for Expedition Shovels. They only cost like 5g to make (if that), so … not too much of an ask for a random Achv. It’s not even a weeks’ worth of racing Achvs, in terms of gold. Races are worth 8k per week/per alt … this would be around 5k.
So if I understand correctly, this is an achievement added after the fact that requires a significant investment and it can’t track previously completing it?
It could see this as being a straw on the back of camel. But kind of like old raid, dungeon, and quest line achievements that got added after the content was relevant when they added the achievement systems. Or having to redo all the quests after cataclysm. Everyone is in the same boat. If you’re chasing achievement points, it’s there, something to do.
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Still not as bad as finding out Engineering has new cosmetic goggles for every color, just for crafting said goggles, of each type, once.
And then you come to find out those cosmetic appearances also require engineering, rendering the whole thing kinda pointless…
(I’ve already got goggles of each color I can wear on my engineers, so what’s the point of cosmetic versions?)
Feels bad man. I just wanna be able to wear goggles on a non-engi, but guess that’s a deal breaker.
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…ready to quit over this? ok, bye
I’m glad you are pondering the possibilities. Yes, Sulfuron Hammer. That same hammer that drops from Ragnaros. Unbelievably, it is bind on equip. Vanilla never had the concept of a crafting system or crafting orders so someone else likely had to make it.
As OP pointed out, you could run a bunch of unfulfilling transmog runs one shotting every core hound in the zone. And I do that just because I never got 8/8 felheart in Vanilla. But reconstructing the flagship hammer by hamster running old content just feels terrible.
Blizzard just put lazy achievements in to check off boxes, and can’t get those feelings back, because they made the hammer bind on equip.
I’m with the OP here. Let sleeping dogs lie. Sulfuron Hammer didn’t need a new achievement, if they can’t glean it’s creation from something that doesn’t make you do it again.
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I’d presume the achievement is focused on new players and not ones who have been around since beta.
I agree it sucks but, idk if this is what makes you quit I think your desire to quit is much deeper than this.
Old content achievements from before achievements were added is questionable, I agree. But at this point what happens if they take it out. Threads tomorrow from the people that went and got them.
If it’s an achievement that was added after the fact, and no one gets it from previous efforts, that’s what it is, an achievement to re-get it.
That’s some cold war level communism right there. Aint no one crafting that again for an achievement.
I get it. Everyone has a last straw.
It’s…worse.
If you look at your hammer, it should say “Made by Brocknor” on it.
So, yes, they DO know who made it.
But I can appreciate how they’re not going to dredge through through the billions of items to backfill this achievement.
so… it’s just a sulfuron hammer, not actually sulfuras?
wow… so much drama.
sure you do.
you might even get a few bucks for it on the AH.
You created it before achievements were a thing through. And back in Wrath they weren’t retroactive.
Ps. Are you really going to quit over a 15 year old crafting achievement?
Understandably for GD, people aren’t getting the point.
I’m incredibly annoyed at how this Achv works, but that’s not why you quit the game.
It’s how this OVERALL DECISION …
… AFFECTS THE ENTIRE GAME.
It’s how the dynamic can be used.
“Oh… we don’t need to actually put any real content in patch 10.2 … just put in an Achv to do Molten Core, but you have to kill the bosses out of order!”
Or even: It doesn’t matter if you’ve have made Sulfuras before … DO IT AGAIN!!!
THAT is the issue worth quitting over. It’s when you stop getting ACTUAL content, and instead of just told to replay the game and… you know… pretend it’s new! (i will not make a Classic joke, i will not make a Classic joke, i will not make a Classic joke…)
? There only is one.
The “Sulfuron Hammer” IS Sulfuras.
The only other one is the one that drops off Cata-Rags, and you don’t craft that. It’s just a drop.
