Phasing is making it so bugs in quests permanent

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Hello again all, I have another post up yesterday about phased quests that bug, and I am going to continue my rant here on this issue…

  • First off, there is no good reason for quests to have 10 different parts to them. Just have 10 quests back to back, gets the same effect.
  • Secondly, with Blizzard being so prone to bugs in their quests, phasing people out of the normal game creates an issue with getting back into the proper phase, when the quest breaks at some point. Which it is almost guaranteed to do. Especially long drawn out quests, that have 8 different phases to them. If just one phase is out of wack, the whole quest is over.
  • Third, phasing adds NOTHING whatsoever to the game play experience, besides frustrations. It feels like yet another way for the half-baked excuse for a Dev team at Blizzard / Activision to put out new content without having to put in the time. Kind of how they make every new map a bunch of mountains, instead of expanding the content, they build up instead of out. Also, how they are slowly pushing flying mounts out of the game with these tiresome Pathfinder requirements to fly, which basically make you grind out the entire expansion before you can fly.
    In all reality it reminds me a lot of the stats squishes they like to do before every new expansion, smaller numbers are easier to work with so they ruin months / years of grinding progress to make their own lives easier.
  • Finally, with the extremely involved number of quests needed for most achievements, it feels kind of dumb to phase out half of them, creating a situation where if they messed up once, the whole thing is ruined.
    I mean, if Blizzard was on their game, like they used to be, and could provide direct assistance through the Ticket system, it would be different, but they seem to always want to take the easy way out of every mistake, telling you to just ‘deal with it’ man, sorry. If there answer to every problem is going to be to try a UI Reset, or exit the game, and then restart it, they need to understand that with phasing involved, it is not that simple. You often cannot get back to where it happened, because it is in another phase for some reason.
    Is anybody else as sickened by the phasing system in the game, or am I alone in this??
    In any case, I have reopened my Ticket, and am hoping to get a dedicated solution from Blizzard, but am not holding my breath honestly. I may end up having to go through the entire storyline again with an alt character because of this, and then there is no guarantee that it will work correctly either.

Phasing, to me, reminds me an awful lot of the terribly broken RNG system that they have integrated into everything in the game, regardless of the wishes of the players who pay their salaries.
If you cannot handle basic math, maybe you should not work in computers!!

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You should probably quit, man. You hate the game and the developer. Why are you still playing it? Addiction? There are people that can help you with that. Depression or sunk-cost-fallacy? Speak to your provider.

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Thanks for the totally unhelpful flame…
This has Nothing to do with depression / addiction, just a complaint because of so many hours put into something, just to have it completely ruined by stupid quest design.
I mean, I had to finish like 50 quests to get to this point, and then completed this one correctly, and all I got from the Ticket I put in was something to the effect of ‘We are aware of the problem, and they are working on a fix’, which does not help me at all.
For the record, I have no clue what sunk-cost-fallacy even means, but I think it means I continue to do something that I know is bad for me, to try and get my money’s worth, which is not true.
I have just invested too many years into these characters to quit now, just because of Blizzard’s hiccup, and I stand by my observation that multi-level / phased quests are pointless, as well as troublesome. There is NO GOOD REASON for a quest to have 7 parts, and not to just have 7 separate quests to reach the same goal, except somebody is trying to show off!!

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Who are you ? :thinking:

Oh a school teacher , cool keep up the good work :+1:

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Any possible chance for a civil response here, and not just flaming??
I did not say I was a teacher, just that I understand basic, 2nd grade mathematics better than the Blizzard Devs do. This being a notable fact since I do not work in the computer field!!

PS. Who are you?? :thinking: :face_with_raised_eyebrow: :thinking:

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In GD? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
You must be new here, welcome to crazy town :partying_face:

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I haven’t’ seen phasing break a quest and I’ve done a lot of quests.

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Can you provide an example? I can’t think of a single quest that works they way you describe and breaks.

The few ‘broken’ quests I’ve seen involve objects that don’t spawn properly anymore.

Though in general, there is a reason to do multi-stage quests rather than multiple quests: Rewards (especially XP) and pacing.

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Really can’t see how pathfinder or stat squishes relate to your issue. Especially the latter- the squishs aren’t for Blizzard. They’re for players, to keep them in comfortable, understandable realm of numbers.

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Explained the whole thing here…

I am still not convinced that this cannot be accomplished with 7 different quest to reach the same goal.

I do not believe that sorry, but if you say so.

PS. Could somebody please respond to that linked post question, instead of everyone focusing their attention here??

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Odd. I have never even once had a problem with phasing. I believe it has helped game play immensely and load balancing zones. Zero idea what you are talking about.

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Glad to hear you have not had the issue, but I HAVE, and Blizzard even said themselves that they were aware of the problem, so it is not my imagination!!

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Can you show me where they say this?

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Urndanorm
Hey there Zack,

Game Master Urndanorm here to help you out. Thanks for taking the time to contact me today.

I understand you were looking to report a bug about not being able to complete the quest Throwing Shade in game and being unable to use the Void Portal again. I am sorry for any trouble this particular bug may have caused you.

I checked into your character’s data, and I also noticed other folks reporting this issue as well, so you are not alone. We are aware of the issue and are working on a fix, but we are looking to gather more information about the issue via in-game bug reports at this time.

Online reports that interacting with any object will cause the Void to phase out. Abandoning and retaking the quest can help with the portal issue. More workarounds and other player’s experiences can be found in the comments for the quest here: https://www.wowhead.com/quest=47203/throwing-shade#comments

We do have an in game option to report bugs directly to the developers, and I’ll go over that in a moment. For this Bug report, I’m submitting one from my side, but be sure to make a bug report in game so we can double attack this issue so Dev can see the issue from both our perspectives. It’ll help be more effective too!

For any future bugs you may run across, we’ve made a change to how you can report this. To start the process, simply click the red question mark on your hotkey bar. This will open up the Customer Support menu. On the left side of that window, you’ll see the option to submit a bug. Just press the Submit Bug button and it will open up a window that will allow you enter information about the bug you ran into.

Once you have your report entered, just hit the Submit button and the bug report will be sent with your information directly to our QA team. This will not generate a ticket on your screen. Also, our QA team will not contact you about the issue , but rest assured they will be reviewing your report and working to get that bug corrected. :slight_smile:

There’s a big advantage to this method as it sends the QA team a snapshot of your character’s information along with the ticket. This provides them with information such as your current phasing, buffs, and any quests you have completed or are in the middle of. This and other information helps them with reproducing the bug. When myself or another GM submits a bug on a player’s behalf, that additional information is not available. So when players submit them directly, it definitely gives them more to work with. :slight_smile:

I’m sorry you had these issues today, but I hope this helps moving forward. If you need assistance with anything else, please do not hesitate to let us know and we’ll be glad to address any concerns.

I hope you have a great day, please take care.

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It sounds like you just want a pity party.

People have responded, asking you details about the quest/situation and you berate them by telling them to re-read your opinionated, vague original post.

How about you tell us the details?

What quest is this?

What zone is this in?

Do you have anybody helping you?

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Ah. I see now. You’re ranting about a single bad experience and for some reason adding in completely unrelated things you don’t like.

Now the post makes some sense. Pretty sure a single experience doesn’t indicate that things are ‘almost guarranteed’ to break, particularly something so many other people have done. But whatever.

I’d suggest revising your post for the tech support forum and focusing on the details of what isn’t working, not a general rant about a half-dozen unrelated subjects. You might actually get a useful response that way.

But it seems you already have. Problem solved then.

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it’s a single issue? This thread has got to be a joke, please tell me. The 1 time it doesn’t do as intended across the 100,000+ times a minute it does it successfully? And it is therefore broke? I’m done here.

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I want a solution, not a pity party, as you so uselessly added here, bt all I am getting is FLAMED…
The quest is called 'Throwing Shade.
The zone is Mac’aree.
I tried to get help, by putting in a Ticket to Blizzard Support, but got an unhelpful series of replies.

If you are done here, then GOODBYE, and thanks for nothing.

I am simply trying to get Blizzard to let me restart a quest that broke at the end of a long series of objectives, it is not that hard to get people, but then everyone on this forum is the same, and provides absolutely no assistance whatsoever, just complaints and gripes!!

PS. to this guy -

Are you a moderator here, or work for Blizzard?? If not then why are you policing the forum posts??

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the replies were helpful.
they just weren’t what you were hoping for.

if a thing is bugged, it gets forwarded to QA.
they explained that.

…but it seems you want them to complete the quest on your behalf.

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Telling me they are aware of the problem and working on it is not fixing the issue I am having, and I am going to stop responding to the ignorant comments here because you are trying to get my post banned!!