Pets still Hilariously Overtuned

[Barabulk-defias-pillager]

It wont be interesting at all. They’re gonna nerf it to the point the pet is trash. Because no thought whatsoever goes into hunter fixes.

I mean we have one gimmick left and there it goes. God forbid we get to tank too.

[Barabulk-defias-pillager]

Maybe you’re just bad.

[Goonunit-whitemane]

Yeah and you’re full of it https://vanilla.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/2007#sample=7&dataset=99

That’s in the phase (level bracket) that Hunters have always performed the best in dps comparatively.

[Abombshield-grobbulus]

@Barabulk-defias-pillager

Because no thought whatsoever goes into hunter fixes.

There is thought going into it which is why they been taking time trying to figure out how to fix it and reversed changes. If there was no thought going into it this wouldn’t be the case.

@Barabulk-defias-pillager

They’re gonna nerf it to the point the pet is trash

The problem is Pets themselves cause a lot of game design issues if they have even the slightest bit of strength. This is just the way it is and always has been. So if you gut Pets then the game is better for everyone but then that is a problem for Pet Classes.

I do think there should be better Runes for BM that aren’t just multiplicative boost which is making Pets Raid Boss Damage bots.

With that said I just got my Scorpid Pet and it’s just exponentially more powerful than other pets even at level 10. The first application of poison is doing 34 damage per tick. I named my pet RaidBossLove. It’s just broken.

[Petsbroken-crusader-strike]

Well it happened not that there was any doubt.

[Abombshield-grobbulus]

Well looks like major fixes tomorrow. Maybe it was finally starting my alt Hunter and getting Scorpid today.

@Kaivax

• Hunter pet attack values have been updated to better scale with Hunter attack power.
• Developers’ notes: Pets that cast spells such as scorpid poison or Lightning Breath were scaling too well and pets using physical abilities were scaling too little. We’ve now normalized the amount of attack power gained, to scale with the focus cost of individual pet abilities. This means that abilities with a higher focus cost, that are cast less often, will receive more benefit from attack power per attack than abilities with a lower focus cost that can generally be used more often. Overall this should level out the damage and reduce situations where some abilities were scaling too much or too little with hunter attack power.
• Scorpid poison now distributes the additional damage it gains from attack power evenly over each stack of Scorpid Poison on the target.
• Developers’ notes: Previously, Scorpid poison received most of its benefit from the Hunter’s attack power in the very first stack. Now the additional damage gained from the controlling hunter will not be gained until the full 5 stacks of poison are on the target. This increases the ramp time a bit and makes it less immediately deadly in PvP.
• Pets now receive a smaller portion of a hunter’s armor and stamina.
• Developers’ notes: Hunter pets were gaining far too much durability from hunter stats, to the point where some pets could get more than double the health and armor of a well-geared level 25 player. We still want dedicated hunters to have the ability to tank certain dungeon and raid encounters, but pets shouldn’t be so effective that they become the objectively correct choice.

[Ttoki-stormrage]

good work we got it fixed

[Phallious-crusader-strike]

Oh no, not the poor warrior! He died to a hunter?! In 20 years this has never happened. Nerf hunters. Let’s just ignore the 300+ dps warriors are doing right now.

[Agtwest-lone-wolf]

Those are some nice change cant wait to try it

[Megabadunk-ashkandi]

@Abombshield-grobbulus

Will be interesting to see what they do. As stated they are the best tanks in the game. They also do more damage than most Classes. So obviously they hold threat better and basically can’t die.

My level 18 paladin has never lost agro to a hunter pet in about 50 dungeons. My 25 warrior has never lost agro to a hunter pet in BFD… so not sure if its a player issue or not but its not a “pet is broken tank” issue.

[Abombshield-grobbulus]

@Megabadunk-ashkandi

My level 18 paladin has never lost agro to a hunter pet in about 50 dungeons. My 25 warrior has never lost agro to a hunter pet in BFD…

Maybe you aren’t understanding originally the Devs said it wasn’t our intention for Pets to be the best Tank in the game. That’s why later when they released the Hotfixes they said this.

@Kaivax

Developers’ notes: Hunter pets were gaining far too much durability from hunter stats, to the point where some pets could get more than double the health and armor of a well-geared level 25 player. We still want dedicated hunters to have the ability to tank certain dungeon and raid encounters, but pets shouldn’t be so effective that they become the objectively correct choice.

Pets have exponentially more health, armor and do way more damage than Tanks. Totally not okay. Since the Pets dots are also outperforming Dots Classes. Is how broken they are starting to sink in?

Parties weren’t inviting Tanks cause the Hunter has a better Tank with his Pet. Or the Hunter can just solo the Bosses and instance.

[Phallious-crusader-strike]

@Abombshield-grobbulus

Pets have exponentially more health, armor and do way more damage than Tanks

Yeah, your weapon should be attackable and have less hp than you too. So if a player wants to they can directly break your sword and disable all your damage permanently.

[Abombshield-grobbulus]

@Phallious-crusader-strike

Yeah, your weapon should be attackable and have less hp than you too. So if a player wants to they can directly break your sword and disable all your damage permanently.

This doesn’t make any sense and the mental gymnastics you are trying to pull is ridiculous. Just stop you aren’t making any valid points.

[Sephrinx-crusader-strike]

So it’s ok for a hunters pet to be doing 100+dps on its own and main tanking raids, but a warrior isn’t allowed to have decent damage when they attack a non moving target dummy?

What is your logic here?

[Phallious-crusader-strike]

The pet is the hunters weapon. The fact that it can be killed is equivalent to killing a warriors sword.

[Abombshield-grobbulus]

@Phallious-crusader-strike

The pet is the hunters weapon.

Wrong. Pets doing damage is bad for the game and it just makes people quit because it’s not fun.

[Cheatcode-stormrage]

its fun for the hunter

[Phallious-crusader-strike]

Wrong pets doing damage is fun. Warriors doing 50% more damage than everyone else for 20 years is not fun. Nerf warrior dps by 75%.

[Abombshield-grobbulus]

@Phallious-crusader-strike

Wrong pets doing damage is fun.

Not in this game. It looks like Wind Serpents need to be addressed and the game will be unplayable till that happens.

Hopefully the Devs can make another adjustment so we can get Pets in a good spot.

[Dalahsurfal-thorium-brotherhood]

Bad for the game? Tell me your reasoning please.