Petless Unholy, How I'd do it

I think OP should play Frost

Hell yeah :smiley:

His suggestion is on par with asking for lone wolf for BM.

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The previous iteration of Demonology used to have Grimoire of Sacrifice as a talent choice. Now that was funny.

That right there proves you did not read.
Because I am not asking for a change nor do I dislike current unholy.
As I have repeatedly stated I am fine with my little geist buddy.
Although I would prefer an option to have him turn into something other than a giant lump during DT…

The fact it is permanent. For some reason that just irks some people.
So I made this thread thinking it’d be fun to toss out a few ideas after 20 minutes of thinking.

Note that, I only took 20 minutes on this. Actual class dev takes far longer than that.
So for all the toxicity…

Who tho?

/10 char

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Just them. No one else wants to go petless in our pet class

Considering it competed against GoSup and GoServ, it was a suboptimal and baffling option.

MM hunters have been good since vanilla with ridiculous aimed shot crits pet or not.

dude let people have opinions without calling them selfish…

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Having an opinion is fine. The problem is their opinion is unpopular and we don’t want our class to be a scuffed arms warrior

But there was actually a point when the class was the actually class and not the pets who was just our helper, now we are helpers to all the pets and it makes the actually class feel like we do nothing aside from support our pets to do the damage we used to do

Undead minions, disease and deathcoils is the unholy fantasy. If you want to drop the pet frost and blood are both great options

Yeah look back when I played death knights we had more than 1 Dot for unholy, we had a Gargoyle and a ghoul, our death coils didn’t hit like wet noodles, our scourge strikes didn’t hit like wet noodles

We actually felt like plague bringing unstoppable forces of death rather than the limp worsted ghoul pimps we currently play

There is nothing wet noodle about unholy dks, we are S-Tier DPS

Not right now in PvP.

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True but 9.1 looks promising and being S-tier and in every form of content in one spec would be a bit much

Yes unholy is going to be great in 9.1

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It might be nice to put more emphasis on plagues though.

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There is a difference between dps, and how hard something hits. When someone says this that and that other thing hits like a wet noodle when they use to not, doesnt actually mean that the dps is going to suck. If you took away the perma pet and army ghouls, the DK itself would feel weak as can be, Demo is a much more extreme example of this with the Tyrant. The warlock does less than 10% of the specs overall damage output.