As far as spells that look badass, it goes without saying that shadow bolts (with nightfall procs) are the best.
so hopefully any solution gives more of that, because it looks awesome.
plop it where drain soul is and make it a choice node between the two.
Do you want Shadowbolt as a filler or as a significant source of damage?
I think when many people talk about wanting Shadowbolt, they want those big burst moments from Nightfall procs, rather than having to cast it during rare downtime as a true filler. I agree that those big instant nuke moments of the past were a lot of fun, but that just isn’t the roll of a modern filler spell, where as Drain Soul is just a much better fit. Like quite a few of affliction’s spells and talents, Shadowbolt is there in name, but it really isn’t the same spell in terms of either function or tuning that it once was
Not even remotely close.
No, it doesn’t, nor does it fit into Affliction, at all. It’s literally only fitting for a “caster” and Affliction isn’t really even supposed to be a “caster” in the oldest sense of “casting” as Affliction had always had instant cast stuff and been all about DoTs not actual casts.
To be honest I want Drain Soul to be baseline and yes, you could talent into Shadow Bolt, and if you did then it just does the same thing as now. Drain Soul makes 1000% more sense baseline than having Shadow Bolt, for Affliction spec.
Thank god for that because, again, it doesn’t fit DoTs n Drains theme that Affliction has always been for the longest time. Like, I’d rather they either remove it entirely or swap it with Drain Soul where DS is baseline and you talent into SBolt, instead, to which it just replaces your DS and then they make DS scale off of mastery as well since it’s technically a damage over time spell.
I would say “this community doesnt learn” but its jsut one person. Remember they tried that with BFA and look at what the result was, people ended up realizing why they moved away from shadowbolt filler to begin with.
I think the problem wasn’t exactly shadowbolt as the whole kit for that matter. Going from Legion afflic to BFA afflic was quite the adventure. Shadowbolt was just a perfect black sheep.
I don’t even care about the rest of the post, I know this forum with find 10000x things why it they don’t like it but this…
I will fight to the death on this. each bolt fires on its own wobbly trajectory and when night fall procs and you get two bolts twisting their way to the target each with it’s own unique path… I am objectively right on this.
also this being a dot class is cute n all but isn’t soul drain the most damaging thing for affliction locks?
I want a talent where I can machine gun out saved up shadow bolts in-between dot up keep / malefic rapture spam
you KNOW it would look and feel awesome I don’t know why you would even deny this.
You will lose this fight when it comes to Affliction spec, 100%.
You are wrong for this spec, mainly because SBolt being a cast and direct damage completely goes against DoT spec’s nature, much the same as how the stupid ability Malefic Rapture actually is designed. The difference is MR has 0.5 legs to stand on since it actually has something to do with DoTs, whereas Shadow Bolt has nothing to do with DoTs. Malefic Grasp looked cooler graphic wise while fitting more thematically and the spec more appropriately.
Even then, it’s still ehh. Affliction’s never really had good animations, for the most part. I wouldn’t entirely figure they’d do it justice now. Drain Soul could use an HD version of itself, but again ehh.
No, it’s the most thematic filler Affliction could have outside of not having a filler at all and just being quite literally only about DoTs. That’s not possible, however, so as a filler it fits. It fits thematically as stated above, it fits with the whole mobility niche Affliction has because you can channel the spell for 0.5 seconds, move and still do damage during that .5 seconds due to partial ticks counting for Drain Soul channels.
We call that Demonology spec, except replace DoTs with imps/pets and replace MR spam with HoG and other things.
No, what I KNOW would look and feel awesome is having Affliction and other DoT specs actually being designed as being DoT specs, not some stupid nonsense of burst that is full on counter intuitive to the design direction of “damage over time” where time is the keyword here. Not some nonsense where they need a cooldown, they need soul shards, they need 15 stupid DoTs instead of just having 4 DoTs in total including their filler being a DoT. No, I don’t mean UA stacking, Drain Soul is a perfect filler for what it should be and does.
I don’t want to be casting anything besides Drain Soul when I’m playing Affliction, maybe Unstable Affliction and having my UA spell going back to Warlords of Draenor feeling where it’s an ultra mega powerful DoT that fits on each target, 1 per target and you can have as many of them out at once as you want.
What I KNOW would make DoT specs, like Affliction, feel much better is having execute DoTs back, too. There’s many other things, but again, just having DoT specs being true to the nature of their very existence instead of combatting against it would actually make the spec feel much better.
Shard spender, if I had to have 1 and if I had to have some kinda stupid burst, then Rapid Contagion 100% literally fits this description entirely and the thematics for Affliction. Going back to making Haunt the spender would also be decent, but even then that would still be “meh.”
No, not ever again
hes not lying - i tried for a whole xpac. i lost.
buddy, are you okay???
I’m talking about how the spell looks… it’s appearance… chill, why are you writing novels at me I’m not on the dev team.
shadow bolt, with night fall procs… LOOKS cool (best in the game this is a fact). I don’t care about theme or your dream of having a class with 15 dot spells.
Shadowbolt wasnt the only problem in BFA i agree but shadowbolt was still indeed a problem.
sounds like nostalgia goggles
and if you are talking about new shadowbolt than it makes even less sense.
Man, those mworgen animations were atrocious.
Idk, Drain Soul is pretty awesome with Nightfall.
you think old shadow bolt LOOKS better than the new one??
are you sure that I’m the one with nostalgia goggles???
I love the way Drain Soul looks and all things being equal, being able to cancel a Drain Soul for movement is always going to be superior to losing a whole Shadowbolt cast. I am not sure they can really co-exist nicely given the execute nature of Drain Soul.
I feel like if you miss Shadowbolt, the solution is to play Demo…
No your comprehension is terrible so ill talk to you like you are 5.
Old shadow bolt animation is bad.
New shadow bolt animation is bad.
I really liked the sound of the old shadowbolt, but as far as looks go I would say both aren’t the greatest but I know what you are referring to when you combine a cast with the nightfall proc, it’s a cool little dynamic effect but it could look even better if the base effect was a bit more shadow and smoke and dark skulls and all the warlock things instead of a line of dark sprinkles.
I want a new animation for drain soul, counts? xD