Permabans for bypassing the XP debuff. What are we doing?

This is the part where people get confused. It is absolutely ok for a twink to group with friends and run dungeons together. But, to prevent/discourage boosting, Blizzard puts an XP Debuff on any player that joins a group with an XP Off twink. This wouldnt be fair to people in the random dungeon finder, however, so groups formed that way dont get penalized

So folks found a “creative use of game mechanics” to get around this restriction.

That is what is not ok. Blizzard fully intends that if you knowingly que with an xpoff twink that you then receive an XP debuff. Getting around that is an exploit. And twinks know full well what theyre doing.

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Enforcing the rules.

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So, Blizzard is punishing players for not buying the current expansion, 'eh? I’m XP locked at 70, so I guess I shouldn’t do dungeons.

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That isn’t what XP locking means. You not being able to gain XP naturally is not the same as someone who paid an NPC to stop gaining XP before the level cap.

Take off your persecution complex hat and play as you normally would.

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Noooooooooooooooo!

/whimpers
/whines

that is impossible since if you got under map you get disconnected
Dont ask me how i know

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Yes and people often claim to have been silenced/suspended for “saying hello in a dungeon” and it later turns out that their version of “hello” is a string of four letter words.

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Permabans for it is really harsh. If they know how players are doing it and have an issue with it, they should just fix it so players can’t do it anymore.

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It’s pretty easy to just not do things that are clearly an exploit as well.

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I agree with that too lol

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In the past they have issued permabans with no recourse to players who never had any previous account action, who hadn’t done what they were accused of. Conclusion: they like permabans and tend to give them out indiscriminately.

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whether it’s intended or not is not pertinent to whether it’s bannable. there are plenty of unintended interactions people have used in this game that don’t result in a ban.

it’s very likely that those people being perma-banned for this have previous strikes for other activity on their account.

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Access is not permission. There is a hefty difference between “whoops, well that wasnt intended but I probably shouldnt do that again” and “oh hey here’s a clever way to get around Blizzards very intentional game design and I’m going to do it daily for months across multiple characters and accounts”

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Are you sure there are permabans going on ? Probably just troll wanting to stir the pot

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Now now everyone, we’ve been told time and time again that every single account action is reviewed by a human for correctness. Considering permabans are the most serious, surely each case was exhaustively reviewed before the ban went out.

:laughing:

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Yeah for sure.

Just thought maybe it seemed pretty extreme to ban somebody forever for doing it but maybe it’s not so unfair if people have leveled 100s of characters or something crazy with that.

The anniversary event made it so fast to level without any extra help! I’d get my characters max level in just a couple days spamming tank and heals.

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Same here , but 3 twinks .Nothing wrong with this i follow all the rules and use the system Blizz made

I honestly wonder how many people actually believe that’s true. I’d like to meet them. I have a bridge for sale.

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And this would be a completely valid stance in a world where Blizzard is a perfect company that makes no mistakes outside of the margin of error.

Thats not the case, and we have plenty of examples in the past of them being happy with the punishments when theres valid arguments against it

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The source of it is also Blizzard. They don’t have to be honest about what was really said if they don’t want to. When they explain on their own forums, they can fabricate anything they want and they know people will eat it up. “Blizzard said it’s true on a Blizzard forum, therefore, it must be true”. Appeal to authority fallacy at it’s greatest.

Your staff has to be competent to be able to see reason and valid arguments. I do not mean that as a slam, but with the amount of rookie mistakes I’ve seen. You cannot expect “thorough investigations” or even a quality investigation from entry-level, minimum wage employees. I read an article from a former employee who said any time you see “thorough”, it was not thorough.

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