People Who Want a "Morally Grey" Alliance

Not a filthy human or honor orc.

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Well yeah, Saurfang is a hypocrite. I have my issues with Saurfang and have no sympathy for him at all. But if Baine had spoken out sooner, well, that would be another story.

I did not say that.

I do?

I want to say Anduin would become a Draenei.

You literally said that NPC idle chatter, i.e. publically speaking out, was somehow “Not the same” as, well, “speaking out.”

It didn’t make sense, but you said it.

This is what I said.

This is what you claim I said.

I did not say this.

Well the part I was saying there was no quote about is people having the same ability or opportunity.

To clarify, I mean ability/opportunity to flee with a reasonable chance of success. I would just disagree everyone has this capability.

I don’t see claiming apathy towards as equivalent to calling them evil. The latter has a lot more condemning on someone else’s character than just lacking sympathy. Just vary in connotation and implication.

I haven’t. Heard mixed reviews.

And calling them cowards shows that same lack of empathy.

NPC Idle Chatter lines are, by definition, public statements.
/tea

Also, Goblin Slayer is NOT analogous to Warcraft in terms of moral principles. The goblins in that are literally genetically evil. There’s a goblin later on whose first kill was when he was a few hours old, because he, as a “toddler”, played helpless, then killed the adventurer when they fell for it.

The series is a deliberate reconstruction of the discredited trope “Always Chaotic Evil.”

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Everyone has the ability… not the same ability, but the ability regardless.

Yes. Everyone has the ability to flee with reasonable chance of success. Some have advantages, some do not. All have the ability.

I am apathetic because they are evil.

Truth can be like that sometimes.

…. Yeah… idle chatter and speaking out are not the same. What point do you think you are making?

So are orcs and goblins and undead in WoW.

Also, that’s besides the point because I was using Goblin Slayer as an example to say something else. You seem to have a reading comprehension problem.

So are orcs and goblins and undead in WoW.

Ok, I think we’re done here. Go reinstall warcraft 2, or pop in The Two Towers. Those sound more your speed.

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I guess I can only indicate the myriad of risks involved to support my belief this is untrue.

The truth is you lack empathy towards these civilians, yeah.

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Because I don’t empathize with murderers and cowards… The Horde has destroyed three Capital Cities. Theramore, Gilneas and Teldrassil… That makes them more destructive than any major villain of any of WoW’s expansion packs, except maybe Deathwing. They have gassed and burned and slaughtered civilian populations time and time again, fought a civil war, and in the wake of the worst genocide ever committed since the Scourge, they do nothing? In fact, most support their genocidal leader… I have no empathy for them.

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Well they have children models so I guess he could.

Because you don’t empathize with these civilians, probably with low resources and families.

Then we agree.

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Murderers and cowards who support a genocidal warchief. They have no Empathy for the Night Elves, I shall have no empathy for them.

Yeah, the poor and/or average civilians with families. I like when we can agree.

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Who support a genocidal warcheif.

Depends how the term support is being used.

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No, support is support. You can try all the mental gymnastics you like. Not going to change the fact that the Horde falls behind in support of Sylvanas.

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Oh, not at all. There are varying degrees and interpretations behind the idea of supporting someone. And we can ascribe varying levels of culpability (or lack thereof) in these.

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Nope…