More people AFK out of wintergrasp offense than complete it.
Half the offense team afks in the field between spawn and sunken ring.
Offense players don’t even try to build tanks anymore.
Blizzard has done 0 fixes to it.
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Realistically it’s smarter to just afk out of an attack WG. 15 minutes vs 30 minutes
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ya it’s a waste of time, especially with how long that BG is. i’ve won one offense
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Its better to just eat the deserter debuff
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i’m willing to be patient and see what they do for 9.1.
as much as I’d love for a quick fix to help reduce the afking and offensive struggles, any quick fix would be a small band-aid that would ultimately do nothing or do far too much and ruin the BG even further.
Don’t ask for fixes. Ask to remove it out of the game completely. Trash bg.
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We’ve been waiting since 8.1.5 for fixes.
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Defense isn’t any better for me, you either lose fast or win the team fights, destroy towers and then wait around for 20mins for the BG to end.
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Is it I sad I knew you were talking about WG with no context
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Perma ban for AFK’ers.
And by AFK’ers, i mean those who do not play, do not focus on objectives, do nothing of value to help their team win, those who whine in chat, those who fight in mid for no reason, etc.
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Hard to tell when so many people jump shotgun inside a vehicle to afk. But I do agree people that join and do nothing needs harsher punsihments.
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You can’t really report AFKers when the entire offense is AFKing. There’s not enough people who care to report left.
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When it first became available in the random epic queue (Ashran included) I thought it was a great idea. While they were current content it was a lot of fun. However seeing it play out it’s a whole different story, both are pretty bad.
I think there is too much going on for a bunch of random people to just pick up and play. It’s not current and a lot of people just have no idea how to play them. They need some tweaking for sure.
edit: Tol Barad might be something people could just play and figure out pretty easily.
Guilty as charged. I Refuse to spend 30-45 minutes on something with a 95% chance at losing. I’ll take the 15 minute deserter debuff.
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well ironic as as I checked in the old days, Horde won a lot of offense fights in Wrath, but that was due to the factor of WG less being skill and more about numbers as you can be skillful but no match against a 40 man raid.
Though if you want tips, you best need to pay attention, call out incs and use strategy to nail (eg, using demos/tanks, protecting them and hopping into vehicles yourself)
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I’ve won about 2-3 wg o’s this expac. Only possible with some parts of the raid being my premade team and even then it’s a stretch. If it’s 100% a pug, you have zero chance. The main reason why 99% of wg o’s lose is for some reason between bfa and sl, all the o teams decided to never push into sr. They all stop on the ramp and get pwnt thus giving the d team a guaranteed win.
its a shame Wintergrasp used to be so much fun in the day
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It’s painful. When you load in into the game you just see this wild scrolling yellow text of leaving and joining. Sometimes it takes a while before you even get a full-ish group that is stable because so many leave.
The reality is people have known that attacking side is going to lose. You can’t count on a random team so large to have a leader that communicates well, coordinates the group, and everyone does exactly what they are supposed to.
Also someone on Reddit did the math and found out you get more honor by leaving, taking the 15min debuff, and joining something else after. Attacking Wintergrasp and staying to full time is an honor loss. Everyone knows it now.
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There is also that Ashrane or “insta leave” BG.
Wintergrasp Offense? /afk