Pay to win using tokens

So long time ago I bought a few tokens.

Visit AH… no dragonflight weapons to buy at all. tokens are worthless.

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Sell tokens for gold. Buy carries with gold. Get end game gear without doing anything by using cash purchases. What does that sound like to you?

Tokens are paying to win. Period.

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But you can buy carries to clear the raids and M+ with gold , So why you need weapons ?? :rofl:

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Best post of the day.

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Sounds like pay to skip not pay to win. Can’t p2w WoW, everything in the game can be achieved for free, there are no cash shop items blizz sells that give unfair advantages to players that spend alot of money. Just because you can pay someone for gear doesn’t mean Jack, you’ll still suck. You people have never played a legitimate P2W game in your lives n it shows. If WoW was actually P2W it would’ve died a long time ago. If WoW went legitimate p2w the player base would almost cease to exist.

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Not really. Because that implies that buying carries is their only purpose.

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Don’t buy tokens. Get gold traditional way. Go pay for a carry and get item.
See. Real money not used.

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Again I’ll ask…
In wow, what do you “win”?
Carry on…

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It’s Sunday and this poor horse is being beat again.

WoW is not pay to win. It never has been pay to win.

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It’s gone way past that. They’re beating a vaguely discolored depression in the ground. Legends say that, long, long ago, a horse may have stood there.

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I loled irl.

So true.

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I do find it funny how hard some people will insist WoW is P2W when it is one of the few online games left that hasn’t been taken over by micro transactions.

They should be cheering Blizzard for holding firm, but some part of their brain insists WoW and Blizzard must be brought down.

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Tokens lean the game toward P2W, but ultimately, I don’t view Carries specifically as counting toward that, because that’s not part of the design of the game. That’s a player created “issue”. Blizzard could do things to hamper it and they choose not to, but it’s still a player created thing.

Now, Shadowlands Legendaries, Dragonflight Crafted Gear (notably Lariat, etc, especially early on), and the typical World Drop BoEs at xpack launch + 2 or so Raid BoEs each patch + Tokens Existing = Just a little bit P2W all on its own. That’s why I say it leans that way, but won’t commit to saying it’s fully P2W, since it’s still limited and you can’t just buy a full set of anything worthwhile.

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No one tell him that most high-end Dragonflight recipes are bind on pickup thus unable to be put on the Auction House.

It’s not pay to win because you can also buy other stuff with it? That’s an interesting take.

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Only thing is nothing is guaranteed.

Could do 12 M+ or Mythic Raids and not see a single usable weapon for you drop.

So, technically it’s gambling at that point.

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Pay 2 win is generally gaining an advantage in game using real money, and is usually an advantage that you cannot acquire with regular gameplay.

Well not only can you gain said advantage playing the game regularly, but it literally requires someone else that has already done it in order to be carried.

Besides, if carries were your idea of a pay to win, than can’t every single game ever created be considered pay to win? Can’t defeat M. Bison, I pay my neighbor to do it, HAH, pay to win!

Ridiculous.

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Pay no attention to that crafting order behind the curtain.

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The only winner is Blizzard, they get the real cash, you get the sparkles.