Exactly, my point of this whole thread.
What gear are you buying? If I could go out and drop gold cap to get myself geared up I’d do it in a heartbeat. There simply isn’t a way to purchase a full set of 415+ gear.
what, a certain level of mythic dungeons, and maybe normal raid? Winning would be downing the mythic raid, and even then it’s a stretch, seeing how a new patch is constantly on the horizon. How do you win something that never ends?
WoW Token.
There, you’re wrong. Now cease your temper tantrum.
I don’t buy gear off the auction house, nor do I believe buying the gear suddenly puts someone ahead of someone else as I said.
But the idea that you can simply buy gear through tokens via cash is the essence of pay2win mechanics seen in other games.
I have already explained it and the other player have explained it how is it pay to win when it’s a resource for gold and game time and gold doesn’t buy you skill.
No, your argument has no merit. WoW Token destroys it. You can literally buy gold from Blizzard and exchange it for power or getting what you want.
Buy 10 tokens - Give Elite PVP’ers million gold to carry me to Gladiator and gear.
Proceed to stomp people with my meta class and gear with barely any effort.
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all that bought was a smoother journey. These cats did those raids a million times on normal and heroic before wiping 14 million times during the world first race. Pay to win implies you pay cash, and that’s it, you won. It don’t mean pay cash for gold, which you then spend on gear and consumeables, only to attempt to win 14 million times before finally beating it, only to realize that’s only the 1st raid of the expansion.
WoW is not pay to win. Show me how to gear yourself to 415+ via gold alone.
I’m not spelling it out again for you my guy. Not sure why addicts to p2w methods defend it so fanatically like those in Lost Ark.
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I don’t think that’s the reasoning behind many players. They pay for literally everything, ie pets, mage tower carries, regular carries, transmogs etc. It’s so easy, sell a token, get gold, use gold. Doesn’t matter if the player who buys whatever becomes #1 player. It’s all in their head.
Easy. Use Tokens to pay for a carry and afk during it.
Plenty of High End Guilds do carries for Tokens and Gold. Don’t pretend this doesn’t happen.
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Do you have any idea how much gold it would take to get a full set of 415 through a carry right now?
I hope you’ve been buying tokens for the last year, and even then you might just get unlucky.
I can’t believe how lazy people have gotten in the game. Now I see someone advertising in trade chat to do carries for power leveling. If you are paying for this boost then why are you even wasting your time and money to play. You are basically doing nothing in game but funneling gold to someone to do all the work for you.
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It sort of depends on how you define p2w, I don’t think there’s an accepted definition to apply here. It is what it is, paying money does give an extra advantage in speed and effort but can be met by someone not paying with more time and more effort. Does that advantage mean it’s p2w? It’s just a label.
I know right this rush mentality people has will eventually get themselves burned out and basically wasting their money away to a game they say they have fun in but in actuality they aren’t having fun but to beat the game when you can’t even beat nor win in an MMO.
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in online gaming, the practice of buying in-game items that give a player a very big advantage over others
This is the typical definition of pay2win. I think it’s the context of how it is applied in WoW.
Certainly applies. To use the gold to purchase carries through content you might not ordinarily do otherwise fits the definition.
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this is true for some games, except the fact that WoW doesn’t rely on gear to be good at your role, you have to have skill on timing, talent build, stat optionization, knowing your cd’s… there so much more to the game than gear that p2w isn’t able to be a title for the game.
Hence, it’s pay2win 
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