Time sinks and reps are dull and mundane. At least M+ gives you a challenge.
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Farming a specific transmog week after week is dull too. Yet no one raises a stink like they do about Pathfinder.
I do agree though reps and time gate from Pathfinder need to be removed
Play FF14. You get flying by doing story.
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That’s because getting a transmog doesn’t affect how I play. Getting flying does affect how I play. People don’t want to grind mundane garbage for a basic travel option that they had access to so easily in the past.
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This is literally the worst example. Having to do PvE because PvP rewards for gear progression is so abysmal is a great sign something needs to be fixed.
I don’t know how anyone looks at flying from a standpoint of getting max level and then dropping a few thousand gold for it to the pathfinder system and says “yea pathfinder is great”
There’s nothing special about it, it’s time gated from the start and unachievable so even when you get part 1 you anxiously await the release of part 2 and hope it’s not going to be horrible. I get rep for the factions I need if they have a piece of gear or mount or tabard I want and that should be it.
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“playing the game” in a very specific and narrow way repeatedly then waiting for Blizzard to decide you get the reward you’ve earned.
Fixed that for you.
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If you honestly want to fly, now is your chance to do it.
I got all the rep I needed in literally a few days. And enjoyed it too.
There are no more excuses.
YES YES LOVE YOU BRO I AGREE 100%
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You are a Vulpera, therefore you shouldn’t talk.
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You’re an outdated race that Alliance now has.
Your jealousy is seething and enough has been said.
Did people not know that Part II is being removed for WoD and Legion? No word on Shadowlands but I can see it being a thing.
Yea, I did the same, it took a promotional event they have never done before just to get me to come back because the idea of grinding out unshackeled and rustbolt rep to fly was nauseating.
I’m glad I can fly now, making my life of leveling alts for shadowlands a lot easier but I could have been doing that a year ago if we didn’t have this silly time gate.
Honestly i’m surprised there aren’t threads whining about it being easy to grind out the rep now when people had to grind it out before the rep buff.
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its just proof blizzard listens to the cry babies to make the game more easier.
Tell me. What’s difficult about PF?
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nothing at all, just people to lazy to do the work which makes me wonder if they cry to there work bosses sorry boss this work is to hard for me so im not going to do it.
So PF is just busy work? To prove what exactly?
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Pathfinder should not be a grind. It should simply unlock when you complete all the 1-off campaign quests.
What makes me mad is when we have to do 2 or 3 weeks of repetitive daily quests that feel like work, not fun. That’s where I vote against Pathfinder.
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Ahem.
There was a young Rogue named Bates.
Who danced around Goldshire on skates.
But a fall on his cutlass
Has rendered him nutless,
And practically useless on dates.
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Pathfinder doesn’t take too much, not even skill. Just complete the questlines, explore around the zones, get reps up to revered (not even exalted), do 100 world quests (something you’ll already do while getting the rep) and just a long wait in between part 1 and 2 (That part, you don’t do anymore until the next one at launch).
Xbox is still around? And Xbox is instant gratification now? 
What work? There’s no skill involved in pathfinder.
Part 1 is mostly completed by leveling and actually playing the game on launch(rep from questing, exploring zones, finishing stories, this is pretty much all of part 1) and when you have done all that it’s a waiting game for no reason until they drop part 2 and now its sitting there in front of you with nothing but repetition in the form of world content.
Make it so you have to do every current raid in LFR(or normal idc) or something else that’s not just grind and wait.