Pathfinder, Normal flight, and whatever we calling dragonflight

Here’s my suggestion.

Remove Pathfinder
Make the switch between the 2 instacast, and it does not remove you from your mount.

This will remove a lot of angst in this community.

Thank you for reading my TEDs talk.

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Everybody is really missing the point. There’s absolutely nothing that dictates that Ion, the design team, or anyone else has a responsibility to match assumptions the playerbase has over slightly different forms of flight gatekeeping over the last 20 years.

The insightful question would be, what is the plan in Midnight?

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From the community? Nope, mostly because there’s largely none.
From these forums? Nope again, but that’s mostly because people are faking being upset about things for the sake of trolling.

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I knew a lot of people would be paying mental rent to the corporate president when I made this thread, I stand by my original post.

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I don’t know. If you put 100 people together and asked them to design an implementation of switching between skyriding and normal flight, how many of them would say “make a button that instantly changes flight method?” I bet it would be 90 or more. It’s hard to understand why they did anything other than that – especially when what they did kind of sucks.

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And why would you listen to 90 people who self-identify as wilfully ignorant…? Just because there’s a lot of trolls repeating the same thing over and over again (hello mr. mostly naked 4 post gnome (to clarify; I dunno if you are trolling or not but when most folks have no post history that means sockpuppets and trolls is the common explanation for that)) doesn’t make it the correct decision. Even less so when at least half of 'em are for sure trolls, and another quarter is most likely trolls.

Not really.

Skyriding is the default and they want you to stick to one mode as your primary mode. They allow people to swap easily back and forth but at the “cost of admission” of a 5 second cast. The entire point is that you are supposed to stick to one mode that you want and/or need.
If you are swapping back and forth you are just gonna have to deal with the 5 second cast. Either stick to one, or deal with the cast time.

It ain’t rocket science.

Stand by it all you want. Wilful ignorance is still wilful ignorance, no matter how snappy you try to make your random insults.

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I don’t think they can make the switch instacast. They’ve put too much strain on the game client in their fever to shove this mini-game down our throats. The cracks are starting to show, or do people think that these hard disconnects and extended maintenance are just coincidences?

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No. I just don’t post much.

I don’t see any reason why the Blizzard developers would want people to stick to one mode, nor have I ever seen one suggest such a desire. If they do want that, it would appear that a lot of players disagree with it. I do.

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There is absolutely no way I can accurately quantify just how much I hate all things Pathfinder. All I can say to this issue is, since the implementation of pathfinder, I have: stopped purchasing new expansion , stopped recommending WOW to friends and coworkers, my time playing WOW has decreased ( THIS might be a good thing…my time spent playing may have been a bit too much) and now, when playing WOW, its for far shorter periods of time. However, there are folks that like Pathfinder so I feel Blizzard should keep it enabled. BUT… IMO, they should also enable the path to the pre-MOP flight mechanics for those of us that enjoyed this option and like spending time taking to the sky’s and exploring.
/Thinks to self: " Why did they do this"

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each mount has two boxes, click the first one for og, or the 2nd for df

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Well it will certainly make a few hundred people happy who seem upset about waiting SIX SECONDS. Question is, why bother? People who can’t stand to wait SIX SECONDS will just find something else to complain about.

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Oh-kay. Then disregard that part.

Due to having explained it too many times at this point, here’s the cliffnotes version:

  • TBC Flying equates to being able to afk anywhere in the world as well as other ways to not engage with the world.
  • The ability to afk anywhere in the world has since TBC had a negative impact on player behaviour that got so bad to a point that in Mists of Pandaria it was a meme that players didn’t notice the two massive Mogu statues in the Vale of Eternal Blossoms.
  • People are used to having access to the ability to afk anywhere in the world and have been upset each time that people were limited to do that, despite it having a positive impact on the game and player behaviour.
  • Comparing it to Skyriding is irrelevant because you have to land when Skyriding, and nor is it the flying component that’s the problem.

Final two points:

  • TBC flying is parralleled to unnecessary car usage in real life. The same psychological impact required to disenticize unnecessary car usage is used; so the goal is for people to use one mode rather than both.
    And the cast time is part of dissuading people from having access to a playstyle that is bad for the game’s overall health, player behaviour, and more.
  • Whether people like it or not is largely irrelevant. No one who wasn’t already going to quit the game isn’t going to quit by Blizzard saying “please pick one mode as your primary mobility mode.”
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That sounds wrong to me. It feels like bot heaven.

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I don’t know what that mess was all about. There are two forms of flight. Why would it ever make sense to push players into one or the other. What’s become more clear is that many players like to switch between the two, sometimes frequently. So the switch button is interrupting their game flow.

If you are all set just using one or the other, you are all set, nothing to complain about.

Just because people post that they are having problems with new flight it does not make them a troll. It’s the people harrassing them that are likely trolling.

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im considering that this is just spam at this point and probably actionable.

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The irony is that the 5 seconds is significantly less than the time you waste traveling in the old flight form.

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For me it’s

Ooo a treasure or something in a tree. Zoom around on a dragon mount. Nope,

Land and wait a few and bring out a hover mount. Loot treasure and either poke around if I have nothing more to do, or land and wait a few to zoom off on my bee mount. :honeybee: :smiling_imp:

Not sure why people want to point to the ability to hover in tbc flight and act like thats the “real” reason prefer it. It maybe one of the reasons but it’s not the only or the main reason. Some people can’t use skyriding, for a variety of reasons. There is a more than 2k post all about it. And that is not the only one.

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No. Pathfinder builds character :muscle:

That’s an interesting one.

I’ve skimmed most of the posts and I have not been able to find an actual reason anyone “can’t” use it. Are you able to specify an actual reason sky riding can’t be used by some who is able to play every other aspect of the game?