This was my thought as well. I’m just glad BOTH were not tied to pathfinder. That initial ride from the wreckage of Dalaran to Dornogal would have been 10-15 minutes by ground mount AFTER we swam over the channel. Or worse, imposed FlightPaths until we unlocked PathFinder and got both forms back. I still have nightmares about the Flight Whistle.
At this point it’s likely just to push returning players into dynamic flight to get them using it enough to learn it instead of just taking the easy route of static flying. It probably has little to do with those of us who have played all of Dragonflight.
If you are coming back from a break though and never learned dynamic flying, there is no real incentive to learn how to do it if you can just fly the way you always have in the past. This version of pathfinder pretty much forces you to at least make the attempt.
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I could see this being a possibility if it were still loaded with meta requirements like all this + rep and then time locked to 11.1 or 11.2, but EA happened on 8/22 and this casual had it on 8/25 before everyone got launched in. It’s never been easier, and while I am super thankful for it, I can’t help but wonder, “Why tie it to the campaign if we’re going to do the campaign and explore anyway?”
Why not just let both rip from the jump and let the true punishment be the slow flight to quest objectives at 420% while others use Skyriding at near 750% and an occasional boost pushing them to 830%? Seems like making DragonRiding the Pathfinder unlock and launching regular flight (the reverse of what they did) would have slowed content consumption down even more which seems to be their goal in most cases.
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just what we needed…yet another pathfinder thread for that group to mock and insult disabled players in.
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no…the scary thought is your sort out in the real world around disabled folk…how youd clearly treat them.
ignored…
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This thread, had you bothered to read any of it, doesn’t even mention anyone with accessibility concerns, like myself. We’re discussing Pathfinder, so you can take your false accusations and inflammatory comments elsewhere. If you had not noticed, your responses are not exactly ToS friendly as all you do is attack others rather than discuss the topic. Minus one troll which you responded to.
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spot on target.
PF was the result of a tantrum tossed because he couldnt have his way with flight.
and now we see PF is what…a few hours tops?
The flight haters and trolls are gonna have to live with the reality that PF is going the way of the dinosaur, just as it should have the first hour of DF.
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I think they just don’t see a reason to comment. This is how they want it right now: doing the leveling campaign their way, then letting us do whatever else our way.
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lol…that sort is just in these threads to say passive aggressive trolling crap to get attention. I just put them on ignore a minute ago, personally.
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Considering the bile some of these people spew daily, and the known trolls in this forum, it’s probably a smart move. And yes, if they are lvl 70 and less than 5k achievement points but almost 10k posts… they are a troll. Sadly, there are plenty of them and their attitudes prevent actual responses and solid discussion from Devs.
its funny when trolling sorts dont know enough about this forum to know that our POSTING characters dont have to be our PLAYING characters…and our POSTING accounts dont have to be our MAIN BNET PLAYING accounts, lmao.
talk about trolling for attention lmao
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You can tell the biased trolling sort in here by who WASNT offended by this…
(as if one has anything to do with the other UNLESS we’re talking disabilities…)
and yet WAS offended by this…
lmao.
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Either way I think things are in a place most can live with. Explore the map, hit max level after doing the campaign and you have it. No need to pay even. That’s not far off what it used to be, except you don’t need to spend gold anymore.
I do think their resistance to steady flight is kind of weird, but since you can do pathfinder in less than a day it’s not really a big deal anymore.
I can see them eventually blending the two styles into one somehow.
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I’m in favor of letting PF go away, because it honestly couldn’t matter less to me, but anyone sitting here acting like allowing one means there’s no reason not to allow the other is full of it. Steady Flight and Skyriding are worlds apart with respect to how they get the player to engage with the world.
PF was about ‘exploration’ on the ground…NOT how you engage with the environment.
So there is no ‘full of it’ when we FACTUALLY state that the REASON for PF existing at all was voided entirely the first hour of DF when we all got dragonriding without ANY real exploration (the REASON PF existed in the first place)
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100% correct
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I agree. If anything, you would think the faster flight would be in the Pathfinder, and slow n steady would be released off the rip. Personally I would like to see both just wide open and pathfinder gone. If you want to force us to do the campaign (which we will likely do anyway), maybe attach a mount as a reward and make pathfinder more about Campaign and Exploration and leave travel out of the equation.
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For the exact reason you said. So that you could get it easy. They just want to push the returning players into using it, not necessarily punish the rest of us.
It’s a ‘Hey, you haven’t been here since Legion, and we have this new flying feature we are proud of that we would like you to try out. But if you don’t like it fine, old flight is unlocked when you are done the campaign, because if we hold it off any longer a lot of people might start screaming at us in the forums.’ thing.
Not a ‘Hey we hate you all for making us bring back flying so we’re gonna make you all suffer.’ thing.
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The people in control at blizzard were sure the player base would get over the removal of flight… they were wrong and it massively backfired.
They were sure everyone would love dragon flying so much that people wouldn’t use old flight anymore… they were wrong.
Now the new change to make us spend a frustrating amount of time to switch flight styles and continuing to lock normal flight behind an achievement, is just their last effort to try and prove some point.
What that point is supposed to be I have no idea anymore, I used to think it was that they thought the game would somehow be more fun if you had 3-4x as much travel time, but now we fly 2x as fast as before… so yeah no idea.
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Gee, I wonder which dev is behind this vindictive flex? Maybe the one that tried and failed to remove all flight from WoW back in WoD?
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